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it has been a few weeks since i last wrote on the forum...my life is spinning out of control...and even as i know this i cant seem to be able to get it under control again...i stopped all my supplements and cant get the motivation to get it in gear again...i know i am sinking into depression again and i dont even care about that...its like someone flipped a switch and all my self caring just went away.....that is why you havent heard from me ...i am forcing myself to write this ....i need you guys ....i dont know if i can go through this again.... :eek:
Linda i wondered where you were....I shall pm you
25 Ways to beat depression
1) Pray
2) Give gratitude
3) free yourself form unecessary guilt and criticsm
4) realize you were born perfect, as you are and that all of us have a purpose...perhaps your "flaws" are what will make you grow...
5) do what you did when you were a child, and had all the time in the world
6) do something for someone less fortunate for yourself
7) realize no matter how bad your situation is, there IS always ALWAYS SOMEONE less fortunate than yourself...
8) Count all the things, no matter how small, that you are thankful for. Make a list, and post it where you will see it everyday
9) seek professional help
10) fingerpaint
11) perhaps try St. John's wort - (research to check for drug interactions first though) - it's clinically proven to be effective _ Omega 3 too
12) bask in the sunlight, even if you have to drive somewhere to be in it!
13) shut the doors, roll up the shades, and DANCE to your favorite music like you're a teenager and no one's looking!
14) stop hanging around people who bring you down For one week, only hang around upbeat, optimistic people.
15) realize anything is possible and life, and tomorrow it could all turn around!
16) run, walk, swim...whatever you do, do it fairly intensley and for at least 20 minutes...endorphins are nature's anti-depresants!
21) write, journal, run, scream , paint, talk to someone you trust, figure out SOME way to express what's underneath it all!
22) forgive everyone for everything, including , and most importantly, yourself
23) run in circles in a meadow :)
24) Listen to a Tony Robbins tape
25) sit around for a day, and watch only comedies! (Hey . it worked for Norman Cousins!
I'm sure I could come up with more, but I have to go now...Linda, my pm box is always open if you need to talk..you are in our thoughts...
1 Attachment(s) Linda,,,hang in there,,,better days are coming,,,,,or might I say your ship is on it's way,,,,mine came but it sank,,,,LMAO,,,just try and think good things no matter what,,,
Would you like to take care of my little guy for awhile ,,,he loves the beach!!!!!!!
hang in there linda. things will always get better. i wish you the best
try and have a good day all
richard
This is a pretty tough thing and I hope that you can get some help to figure it out. You can pm me if you want. Also, where in Indiana are you? We are having a support group meeting this weekend in Michigan if you are interrested. Might be a drive but might be worth it.
Brad
Hi Linda,
Sorry to here that things are not going well and you are really depressed. Althugh Jgirl suggestion are nice warm fuzzies they are not what you need. You need to get to a doctor and get help.
You have mention that this is not the first bout of depression that you have gone through. These bouts of depression are a repeat occurence and thinking good thoughts will not get you throught it. Call a doctor, make an appointment, keep that appointment and tell them you need it TODAY!
There is no shame in seeking and getting help. You are such an important member of our "P" family and we need you here. Please, please call for help.
Mitch
Linda,
Know that you are loved...
Blessings,
Joe
Linda, always know that we are here for you and understand...A lot of us have been there...Just remember, tomorrow is another day...It DOES get better...Hang in there!!!!!
xoxo
Molly
thanks guys....i know you care and that helps...i know i need to get myself back to the doc....but dammit...i just got off all the anti-depressants and was doing so good....until now....my head doc. said i would never be able to go without anti-d. but i was hoping to prove her wrong... :mad: all that meds. was messing up my liver and i just got that normal again...CALGON TAKE ME AWAY!!!!!! i will think about going back on the anti-d. if i cant snap myself out of this funk pretty soon...i have lost my 10 pounds that it took me months to put on.....back to 94 lbs again....i know my depression make my anorixea worse....and the anorixea makes my p. worse....it is in a BIG time flare right now....well just wanted to keep you informed and i really am thankful for you guys to vent to...well...im off to make my first cup of saffron tea...ta ta for now.... :confused: if it dont taste like it smells,i might be able to get that down in my tummy...
Hi Linda,
There is no shame in needing help! Please do so. It for you own benifit and health. As far as the anorixea you need to be sure you are treating this disease. The possible consequences of not dealing with it is so far worse than any side effects from any of the drugs we take for P & PA.
My son friend Dee is waiting a heart transplant at the age of 22 from complications of anorixea, please, please get the help you need. You can not fight this disease alone!
Please keep in touch.
Mitch
Linda,
Consider yourself hugged. It sounds like you could use one. As much as you don't want to you really need to go to the doctors. Sometimes we have to do things we don't want to. It really might help. Please remember we are all here for you through the good times and bad.
I hope you start feeling better soon.
Take care.
Polly
i am calling head doc. first thing monday morning....thanks guys... :p
I think that is a good choice, I hope that he can give you some help or ideas. Be sure to work with him the best you can, I know you can survive this. Look for a support group in your area if you can! Get that food thing fixed! then work on the skin!
want to here something ironic....i belong to a anorixea group...and you arnt allowed to talk about your eating....isnt that dumb?...here on this group, atleast we can talk about p.....i have been going throught this for 20 years now....there are no eating disorderes clinics, or anyone even with special training in this condition....in Indiana anywhere....there are a few docs. in indianapolis...but all "out patient"...and i cant drive 200 miles round trip 2 or 3 times a week...my head doc here just says "you have to eat more"....that really helps!...not...i know what i need...in patient care...but that is out of the question...they want 40,000 dollars just to walk through the door [just incase your insurance dont pay]...and my hmo wont let me go out of state....i know this will probly be how i die...I JUST HATE THE WAY THE INSURANCE COMPANYS CAN MAKE THE LIFE AND DEATH CALL WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO BEING THEIR CALL!!!!! :confused:
I have no exerience with anorixea so take this with a grain of salt. I mean
this in the best possible way.
Go eat a slice of pizza. It'll be good for your body, and your soul. :D
(feel free to substitute the fast food of your choice)
:confused: ...i just couldnt bring myself to call the doc....maybe tomarrow? :(
I think Anorexia or any eating disorder is similar to Psoriasis in this way. Unless you have it or are dealing with it personally most people have no clue to what the individual is going through.
I hope you can conquer it Linda....and do make that call.
Linda,,,,,yes,,,call your doctor. You deserve to feel better. There is no need to be depressed when there is help out there. You just have to find it.
Hey Linda you got to call the doctor today not tomorrow. When you are deprssed you can not make rational decisions. No amount of hugs, psoitive thoughts and prayers will do anything for you.
Make the call now!
Not tomorrow but now!
You will only get worse and get more depressed if you wait. You need help and you need help now.
Please call don't wait!
Mitch
Hi Linda,
I just ran across your post and wanted to let you know the importance of calling as soon as you can. You really need to get get up the courage and do it. It'll make such a difference in your life. The reason why I'm saying this is many years ago (over 30 years now) I was in your shoes. When I was married at 20 years old and moved away (over 1,000 miles from my home) I weighted 110 lbs. I'm 5"8". During the first 3 years of marriage, somehow I started getting aniourexic. I wouldn't eat anything but just a few things during the day----within a year I was now down to 85 lbs. and still didn't eat much. I decided I couldn't swallow any food that wasn't in a liquid---like maybe chocolate milk, or a soda or water. Linda, after finally going to the doctors I was able to get the help I needed and after a while was able to gain the weight back on and stay at a normal weight and eat again. Now 30 years later I've got to lose weight, but now with good reason as I'm very much overweight. Seriously, Linda, please call someone and get the help you need to work first on your health to start eating again. The "head doctor" will help you as will a primary care doctor.
Please let me know how you are doing and feel free to pm me.
From
Sandy
(been there---done that)
Hi Linda
Sorry to hear you are having a hard time to relax.
I kow how bad it is to feel hopeless.
We all feel that way .
However , we are allowed to feel that way only from time to time .
We are not allowed to stay like that .
I know how hard is to deal with it . But what i can tell you is all depend on us , the way we see things , and the way we accept things.
I learned not to find a medication to heal my skin , but , to go on with my live with the lesions on my skin . Anything i apply that heals , it would be great . But if not , i will not bother . And i will look on other things i can enjoy .
I know women care about what to wear, be able to wear skirts , and many things .
I personally don't see problems about wearing clothes . Because as a boy , i wear pants all the time and no need to go shirtless.
I think anyone , has something that psoriasis affects more. In my case is basically the dating thing . I haven't had intimacy with anyone for near 8 years . And that is something i need to work on .
My point is , whateve is your need why you didn't want to have psoriasis , you will need to learn how to find an alternative , or simply learn how to live with that .
Since i was NEVER in a relationship , not being with someone became something very bearable for me . Even though all of us need affection and need somebody to fulfill our feeling , what I learned was not to suffer with that .
I've been emotionally steady for 1 year , . And all i did was simply be counscious that i need to focus on things that don't depend on psoriasis .
Hope you find a way . Remember we are here to support to listen to cry to speak up .
Take care . Wishing you the best
vinny
:)
hoping you find your strength each day... and do seek assistance nobody should dislike themselves so much you are loved and need to love yourself
hay there guys....still handing in there...still cant [or wont] call the doc. yet....i dont know if i can....i know something is holding me back from making the call...i thought on in all week-end...this came to me like a light bulb over mt head :eek: the reason i havent called the doc. about the depression is because the meds. always make me gain weight....and even though im at 92 pounds now....i fell a compultion to lose more weight...even though i know i shouldnt...every thought of every min. of every day i think about how i can avoid eating...i am not a person anymore...i cant find joy in anything i just to care about....i have hiden away in the house and dont answer the phone...and right now i am having a panic attact ...shaking so badly i cant type antmore...
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Linda i wondered where you were....I shall pm you
Answers:
25 Ways to beat depression
1) Pray
2) Give gratitude
3) free yourself form unecessary guilt and criticsm
4) realize you were born perfect, as you are and that all of us have a purpose...perhaps your "flaws" are what will make you grow...
5) do what you did when you were a child, and had all the time in the world
6) do something for someone less fortunate for yourself
7) realize no matter how bad your situation is, there IS always ALWAYS SOMEONE less fortunate than yourself...
8) Count all the things, no matter how small, that you are thankful for. Make a list, and post it where you will see it everyday
9) seek professional help
10) fingerpaint
11) perhaps try St. John's wort - (research to check for drug interactions first though) - it's clinically proven to be effective _ Omega 3 too
12) bask in the sunlight, even if you have to drive somewhere to be in it!
13) shut the doors, roll up the shades, and DANCE to your favorite music like you're a teenager and no one's looking!
14) stop hanging around people who bring you down For one week, only hang around upbeat, optimistic people.
15) realize anything is possible and life, and tomorrow it could all turn around!
16) run, walk, swim...whatever you do, do it fairly intensley and for at least 20 minutes...endorphins are nature's anti-depresants!
21) write, journal, run, scream , paint, talk to someone you trust, figure out SOME way to express what's underneath it all!
22) forgive everyone for everything, including , and most importantly, yourself
23) run in circles in a meadow :)
24) Listen to a Tony Robbins tape
25) sit around for a day, and watch only comedies! (Hey . it worked for Norman Cousins!
I'm sure I could come up with more, but I have to go now...Linda, my pm box is always open if you need to talk..you are in our thoughts...
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1 Attachment(s) Linda,,,hang in there,,,better days are coming,,,,,or might I say your ship is on it's way,,,,mine came but it sank,,,,LMAO,,,just try and think good things no matter what,,,
Would you like to take care of my little guy for awhile ,,,he loves the beach!!!!!!!
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hang in there linda. things will always get better. i wish you the best
try and have a good day all
richard
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This is a pretty tough thing and I hope that you can get some help to figure it out. You can pm me if you want. Also, where in Indiana are you? We are having a support group meeting this weekend in Michigan if you are interrested. Might be a drive but might be worth it.
Brad
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Hi Linda,
Sorry to here that things are not going well and you are really depressed. Althugh Jgirl suggestion are nice warm fuzzies they are not what you need. You need to get to a doctor and get help.
You have mention that this is not the first bout of depression that you have gone through. These bouts of depression are a repeat occurence and thinking good thoughts will not get you throught it. Call a doctor, make an appointment, keep that appointment and tell them you need it TODAY!
There is no shame in seeking and getting help. You are such an important member of our "P" family and we need you here. Please, please call for help.
Mitch
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Linda,
Know that you are loved...
Blessings,
Joe
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Linda, always know that we are here for you and understand...A lot of us have been there...Just remember, tomorrow is another day...It DOES get better...Hang in there!!!!!
xoxo
Molly
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thanks guys....i know you care and that helps...i know i need to get myself back to the doc....but dammit...i just got off all the anti-depressants and was doing so good....until now....my head doc. said i would never be able to go without anti-d. but i was hoping to prove her wrong... :mad: all that meds. was messing up my liver and i just got that normal again...CALGON TAKE ME AWAY!!!!!! i will think about going back on the anti-d. if i cant snap myself out of this funk pretty soon...i have lost my 10 pounds that it took me months to put on.....back to 94 lbs again....i know my depression make my anorixea worse....and the anorixea makes my p. worse....it is in a BIG time flare right now....well just wanted to keep you informed and i really am thankful for you guys to vent to...well...im off to make my first cup of saffron tea...ta ta for now.... :confused: if it dont taste like it smells,i might be able to get that down in my tummy...
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Hi Linda,
There is no shame in needing help! Please do so. It for you own benifit and health. As far as the anorixea you need to be sure you are treating this disease. The possible consequences of not dealing with it is so far worse than any side effects from any of the drugs we take for P & PA.
My son friend Dee is waiting a heart transplant at the age of 22 from complications of anorixea, please, please get the help you need. You can not fight this disease alone!
Please keep in touch.
Mitch
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Linda,
Consider yourself hugged. It sounds like you could use one. As much as you don't want to you really need to go to the doctors. Sometimes we have to do things we don't want to. It really might help. Please remember we are all here for you through the good times and bad.
I hope you start feeling better soon.
Take care.
Polly
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i am calling head doc. first thing monday morning....thanks guys... :p
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I think that is a good choice, I hope that he can give you some help or ideas. Be sure to work with him the best you can, I know you can survive this. Look for a support group in your area if you can! Get that food thing fixed! then work on the skin!
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want to here something ironic....i belong to a anorixea group...and you arnt allowed to talk about your eating....isnt that dumb?...here on this group, atleast we can talk about p.....i have been going throught this for 20 years now....there are no eating disorderes clinics, or anyone even with special training in this condition....in Indiana anywhere....there are a few docs. in indianapolis...but all "out patient"...and i cant drive 200 miles round trip 2 or 3 times a week...my head doc here just says "you have to eat more"....that really helps!...not...i know what i need...in patient care...but that is out of the question...they want 40,000 dollars just to walk through the door [just incase your insurance dont pay]...and my hmo wont let me go out of state....i know this will probly be how i die...I JUST HATE THE WAY THE INSURANCE COMPANYS CAN MAKE THE LIFE AND DEATH CALL WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO BEING THEIR CALL!!!!! :confused:
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I have no exerience with anorixea so take this with a grain of salt. I mean
this in the best possible way.
Go eat a slice of pizza. It'll be good for your body, and your soul. :D
(feel free to substitute the fast food of your choice)
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:confused: ...i just couldnt bring myself to call the doc....maybe tomarrow? :(
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I think Anorexia or any eating disorder is similar to Psoriasis in this way. Unless you have it or are dealing with it personally most people have no clue to what the individual is going through.
I hope you can conquer it Linda....and do make that call.
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Linda,,,,,yes,,,call your doctor. You deserve to feel better. There is no need to be depressed when there is help out there. You just have to find it.
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Hey Linda you got to call the doctor today not tomorrow. When you are deprssed you can not make rational decisions. No amount of hugs, psoitive thoughts and prayers will do anything for you.
Make the call now!
Not tomorrow but now!
You will only get worse and get more depressed if you wait. You need help and you need help now.
Please call don't wait!
Mitch
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Hi Linda,
I just ran across your post and wanted to let you know the importance of calling as soon as you can. You really need to get get up the courage and do it. It'll make such a difference in your life. The reason why I'm saying this is many years ago (over 30 years now) I was in your shoes. When I was married at 20 years old and moved away (over 1,000 miles from my home) I weighted 110 lbs. I'm 5"8". During the first 3 years of marriage, somehow I started getting aniourexic. I wouldn't eat anything but just a few things during the day----within a year I was now down to 85 lbs. and still didn't eat much. I decided I couldn't swallow any food that wasn't in a liquid---like maybe chocolate milk, or a soda or water. Linda, after finally going to the doctors I was able to get the help I needed and after a while was able to gain the weight back on and stay at a normal weight and eat again. Now 30 years later I've got to lose weight, but now with good reason as I'm very much overweight. Seriously, Linda, please call someone and get the help you need to work first on your health to start eating again. The "head doctor" will help you as will a primary care doctor.
Please let me know how you are doing and feel free to pm me.
From
Sandy
(been there---done that)
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Hi Linda
Sorry to hear you are having a hard time to relax.
I kow how bad it is to feel hopeless.
We all feel that way .
However , we are allowed to feel that way only from time to time .
We are not allowed to stay like that .
I know how hard is to deal with it . But what i can tell you is all depend on us , the way we see things , and the way we accept things.
I learned not to find a medication to heal my skin , but , to go on with my live with the lesions on my skin . Anything i apply that heals , it would be great . But if not , i will not bother . And i will look on other things i can enjoy .
I know women care about what to wear, be able to wear skirts , and many things .
I personally don't see problems about wearing clothes . Because as a boy , i wear pants all the time and no need to go shirtless.
I think anyone , has something that psoriasis affects more. In my case is basically the dating thing . I haven't had intimacy with anyone for near 8 years . And that is something i need to work on .
My point is , whateve is your need why you didn't want to have psoriasis , you will need to learn how to find an alternative , or simply learn how to live with that .
Since i was NEVER in a relationship , not being with someone became something very bearable for me . Even though all of us need affection and need somebody to fulfill our feeling , what I learned was not to suffer with that .
I've been emotionally steady for 1 year , . And all i did was simply be counscious that i need to focus on things that don't depend on psoriasis .
Hope you find a way . Remember we are here to support to listen to cry to speak up .
Take care . Wishing you the best
vinny
:)
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hoping you find your strength each day... and do seek assistance nobody should dislike themselves so much you are loved and need to love yourself
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hay there guys....still handing in there...still cant [or wont] call the doc. yet....i dont know if i can....i know something is holding me back from making the call...i thought on in all week-end...this came to me like a light bulb over mt head :eek: the reason i havent called the doc. about the depression is because the meds. always make me gain weight....and even though im at 92 pounds now....i fell a compultion to lose more weight...even though i know i shouldnt...every thought of every min. of every day i think about how i can avoid eating...i am not a person anymore...i cant find joy in anything i just to care about....i have hiden away in the house and dont answer the phone...and right now i am having a panic attact ...shaking so badly i cant type antmore...
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