Question:
Hi
I have a question ......
it is only for my own culture.....
England and Usa speak the same language,but
Why the pronunciation is so different ?
i'm courious to know....
thanks in advance
Maurizio
community and environment Maurzio. When I was in the service down south I picked up a southern accent. Now when I'm away from home people can pick me out as being from the north.
If you're from Boston you stick out like a sore thumb. I can pick out Bostonians really easy. Canada has an accent to eh?
I think it's just the environment and your surroundings.
I have a very good friend who was born and raised here in New Jersey. (She basically moved back and forth between two towns when she was growing up.) She now lives in Florida. She's a nurse. Her parents are originally from the Baltimore area and they retired to Ocean City, Maryland. Her father, sadly, developed terminal lung cancer and my friend moved to Maryland to help her mother take care of him. She stayed in Maryland for about two years after her fathers death. She was working in the operating room at a major teaching hospital. In the middle of an operation, one of the surgeons said to her "With an accent like that, there's only two places in the world where you can be from." He went on to name BOTH of her hometowns! :eek: She was very embarrassed. The funny thing is that she doesn't have an accent. (At least, not as far as I'm concerned. I mean, doesn't EVERYONE talk that way? :D )
Mike
When I first moved to Charlotte in 1990 I did not have a southern accent, but because I basically grew up here, u can DEFINITELY hear southern in most of the words I say. People from the north make fun of me all the time, lol :)
Ashley
Hi
Thanks for the answer,but
now i do not want to disappoint all of you...
so forgive my ignorance (ignorance = i ignore ).....
you are explaining me that exists different accents between people in the Usa
and/or Canada,and a lot of you are able to distinguish the pronuncitaion and
identify the origin of who is talking.
This is the same for me when i hear italians ....i can understand where they come from.
My english (language) knowledge is not so good as your,and never will become
just because English is not my mother tongue.
So i will be never able to distinguish between American (new world) accents.
The occasions to hear people talking in american/english here are looking at
the television....here your movies arrives traslated....so i can hear talking in american when tv shows your presiden GW or when i was travelling for work
and listen CNN TV.
the same for England when i hear at tv English premier Mr. Blair or other important authorithy.
I can only distinguish a strong difference between England (English)
and American (english)....the pronunciation of the new world english looks to me more "Large"....and the accent more strong (i can say more masculine if
england people are not offended) .
this is why i opened this thread because i was always wondering to myself....
but if the Usa first Inhabitants comes from the United Kingdom.....why the
pronunciation is so different ?
I think that when we hear news on television the speakers have to talk with
a perfect accent.... and here i see the difference....in the official speaking...
also a foreigner like me can distinguish between Americans and English by the accent,surely i'm not so able to distinguish between Usa states and/or Canadians.
Now you inform me tath also inside the Usa the accents are different....
The Italian accents are differents because italy was united only in the 1860
(before we were separeted countries without contacts...)
let me know more....for me is very interessant.....
Thanks
Maurizio
Maurizo,
Like NJ, Boston, our accents can change from area to area!
Here is a link that Molly posted a while back to show you how we talk in Boston, It's funny and most of all true lol! it's " wicked " cool...
http://www.2nite.com/lingo2.htm
Karen :)
Maurizio---
It's very important to understand that only people from Boston speak english properly. Everyone else speaks a version of the language that has changed through history. In fact people from England don't even speak a version of english that is hysterically (oops I meant historically) correct. So if you want to learn where to park your car (pronounced whea to pahk yaw cah) ask someone who speaks authentic english, a Bostonian.
Nick
"Love that dirty water"
P.S. All kidding aside Stephen Pinker has written some very good books on language that discuss these issues (pronunciation drift etc...) from a historico-genetic (I made that word up) perspective.
As I Texan, I must put my boots on and wade on through this one!!
Nick, while I can appreciate the fact that you are OBVIOUSLEY partial to Boston, I have to say y'all talk funny!! As you probably feel the same about us! LOL!
You can definately tell the difference between different areas in the US by their accent. A southerner has a drawl to their language, like we are in no hurry. Maybe it is due to the climate. Who knows?
I can definately pick out a New Yorker as quick as I can pick out an Englishman. South Carolina has a different sound pattern than Texas and Louisiana has a sound all their own! Georgia also has a different Southern flair.
It is somewhat perplexing as we are all taught the same english. Websters dictionary is used nationwide and offers the same pronounciation for words no matter what state you habitate.
Go figure...
People in Kentucky have a quasi-Southern accent with a mix of rural-Appalachian into it. "I need a quart of oil" is a great way to know what it sounds like. I tend to talk like I'm from Ohio, said my neighbor who lived up there, even though I've been there like twice in my life! Go figure!
I lived in TX for 22 yrs (originally from NJ) and things are said differently down there.
Down the Road a piece refers to anything that can be 1-20 miles away.
Fixin does not refer to repairs; refers to you're about to do something
Not getting good gas milage on your car? You might need your oll changed.
Made a large purchase at the store? You might need a sack for it.
Fir =for
do you need something to write with? You need a pen, but in TX it is pronounced pin.
Coke refered to any soft drink; not a CocaCola. So when visiting your favorite restaurant and the waitress asks if you would like a coke and you say yes, don't be surprised when she asks what kind.
I now live in VA...people still have a southern accent, but it is different then a TX accent.
People in this state do not drive cars or trucks they drive their Vehicle to where they need to go.
Ya recken is a frequent saying
One summer during college I worked at an Olive Garden in NJ and a customer asked "what part of South Jersey talks the way you do?" I replyed "the part that is so far south it is located in TX." That got me a good chuckle and a nice tip.
Y'all come back now, ya hea
Has more to do with the British speaking the Queen's English and Americans speaking American English. The Queen's English is lot more formal and the spelling of words is more formal. Once they came to America people had to stop using whatever their language of origin was and start speaking the language spoken here which is English with a smattering of all kinds of things. Over the years it seems that American English became a more relaxed language then the Queen's English thereby making it a different language altogether. And then as everyone has been pointing out every region of the country speaks slightly differently. I hope this is what you were looking for when you asked. I suppose that the real answer is that the two languages, although they may be similar, are no longer really the same language at all.
Just my take on it,
Paige
I have a question ......
it is only for my own culture.....
England and Usa speak the same language,but
Why the pronunciation is so different ?
i'm courious to know....
thanks in advance
Maurizio
Answers:
community and environment Maurzio. When I was in the service down south I picked up a southern accent. Now when I'm away from home people can pick me out as being from the north.
If you're from Boston you stick out like a sore thumb. I can pick out Bostonians really easy. Canada has an accent to eh?
I think it's just the environment and your surroundings.
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I have a very good friend who was born and raised here in New Jersey. (She basically moved back and forth between two towns when she was growing up.) She now lives in Florida. She's a nurse. Her parents are originally from the Baltimore area and they retired to Ocean City, Maryland. Her father, sadly, developed terminal lung cancer and my friend moved to Maryland to help her mother take care of him. She stayed in Maryland for about two years after her fathers death. She was working in the operating room at a major teaching hospital. In the middle of an operation, one of the surgeons said to her "With an accent like that, there's only two places in the world where you can be from." He went on to name BOTH of her hometowns! :eek: She was very embarrassed. The funny thing is that she doesn't have an accent. (At least, not as far as I'm concerned. I mean, doesn't EVERYONE talk that way? :D )
Mike
Answers:
When I first moved to Charlotte in 1990 I did not have a southern accent, but because I basically grew up here, u can DEFINITELY hear southern in most of the words I say. People from the north make fun of me all the time, lol :)
Ashley
Answers:
Hi
Thanks for the answer,but
now i do not want to disappoint all of you...
so forgive my ignorance (ignorance = i ignore ).....
you are explaining me that exists different accents between people in the Usa
and/or Canada,and a lot of you are able to distinguish the pronuncitaion and
identify the origin of who is talking.
This is the same for me when i hear italians ....i can understand where they come from.
My english (language) knowledge is not so good as your,and never will become
just because English is not my mother tongue.
So i will be never able to distinguish between American (new world) accents.
The occasions to hear people talking in american/english here are looking at
the television....here your movies arrives traslated....so i can hear talking in american when tv shows your presiden GW or when i was travelling for work
and listen CNN TV.
the same for England when i hear at tv English premier Mr. Blair or other important authorithy.
I can only distinguish a strong difference between England (English)
and American (english)....the pronunciation of the new world english looks to me more "Large"....and the accent more strong (i can say more masculine if
england people are not offended) .
this is why i opened this thread because i was always wondering to myself....
but if the Usa first Inhabitants comes from the United Kingdom.....why the
pronunciation is so different ?
I think that when we hear news on television the speakers have to talk with
a perfect accent.... and here i see the difference....in the official speaking...
also a foreigner like me can distinguish between Americans and English by the accent,surely i'm not so able to distinguish between Usa states and/or Canadians.
Now you inform me tath also inside the Usa the accents are different....
The Italian accents are differents because italy was united only in the 1860
(before we were separeted countries without contacts...)
let me know more....for me is very interessant.....
Thanks
Maurizio
Answers:
Maurizo,
Like NJ, Boston, our accents can change from area to area!
Here is a link that Molly posted a while back to show you how we talk in Boston, It's funny and most of all true lol! it's " wicked " cool...
http://www.2nite.com/lingo2.htm
Karen :)
Answers:
Maurizio---
It's very important to understand that only people from Boston speak english properly. Everyone else speaks a version of the language that has changed through history. In fact people from England don't even speak a version of english that is hysterically (oops I meant historically) correct. So if you want to learn where to park your car (pronounced whea to pahk yaw cah) ask someone who speaks authentic english, a Bostonian.
Nick
"Love that dirty water"
P.S. All kidding aside Stephen Pinker has written some very good books on language that discuss these issues (pronunciation drift etc...) from a historico-genetic (I made that word up) perspective.
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As I Texan, I must put my boots on and wade on through this one!!
Nick, while I can appreciate the fact that you are OBVIOUSLEY partial to Boston, I have to say y'all talk funny!! As you probably feel the same about us! LOL!
You can definately tell the difference between different areas in the US by their accent. A southerner has a drawl to their language, like we are in no hurry. Maybe it is due to the climate. Who knows?
I can definately pick out a New Yorker as quick as I can pick out an Englishman. South Carolina has a different sound pattern than Texas and Louisiana has a sound all their own! Georgia also has a different Southern flair.
It is somewhat perplexing as we are all taught the same english. Websters dictionary is used nationwide and offers the same pronounciation for words no matter what state you habitate.
Go figure...
Answers:
People in Kentucky have a quasi-Southern accent with a mix of rural-Appalachian into it. "I need a quart of oil" is a great way to know what it sounds like. I tend to talk like I'm from Ohio, said my neighbor who lived up there, even though I've been there like twice in my life! Go figure!
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I lived in TX for 22 yrs (originally from NJ) and things are said differently down there.
Down the Road a piece refers to anything that can be 1-20 miles away.
Fixin does not refer to repairs; refers to you're about to do something
Not getting good gas milage on your car? You might need your oll changed.
Made a large purchase at the store? You might need a sack for it.
Fir =for
do you need something to write with? You need a pen, but in TX it is pronounced pin.
Coke refered to any soft drink; not a CocaCola. So when visiting your favorite restaurant and the waitress asks if you would like a coke and you say yes, don't be surprised when she asks what kind.
I now live in VA...people still have a southern accent, but it is different then a TX accent.
People in this state do not drive cars or trucks they drive their Vehicle to where they need to go.
Ya recken is a frequent saying
One summer during college I worked at an Olive Garden in NJ and a customer asked "what part of South Jersey talks the way you do?" I replyed "the part that is so far south it is located in TX." That got me a good chuckle and a nice tip.
Y'all come back now, ya hea
Answers:
Has more to do with the British speaking the Queen's English and Americans speaking American English. The Queen's English is lot more formal and the spelling of words is more formal. Once they came to America people had to stop using whatever their language of origin was and start speaking the language spoken here which is English with a smattering of all kinds of things. Over the years it seems that American English became a more relaxed language then the Queen's English thereby making it a different language altogether. And then as everyone has been pointing out every region of the country speaks slightly differently. I hope this is what you were looking for when you asked. I suppose that the real answer is that the two languages, although they may be similar, are no longer really the same language at all.
Just my take on it,
Paige
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