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Finally watched Pearl Harbor - [Big Spoilers]
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Please excuse any typo's or bad grammar, I think Peal Harbour stole my education.
OK, what's this ?.
Two small stereotyped southern American kids fooling around in an aeroplane. One of the boys is disciplined by Cleatus the slack jawed yokel. Made even more disturbing when Cleatus announces he was once fighting Germans.
Boys turn into Ben Affleck and Josh Hartnett. Training exercise at random US military base. Affleck and Hartnett play chicken in planes whilst being cheered on by their Friends on the ground. This would probably get you fired from the military or placed in detainment but instead The General tells them how great they both are after a few cautionary words with one of those "By God, there goes the best damn fighter pilot in the world" type speech's.
President, wholesomely good wheelchair bound patriot. He questions his advisers, "People are dying, yet America doesn't believe this is their war!, I'm going to do something, It's time to act now people !!!! blah blah blah". No explanation is given as to why the President suddenly woke up one morning years after WW2 had started and formed this righteous opinion now rather than at the start. Irrelevant information like the partial funding of Nazi Germany was also strangely left out.
Information broadcast -
"The only thing that stands between Nazi controlled Europe is a few British pilots, France falls, America says this is not our war"
Because the UK only has 3 pilots left to man the skies of the whole of Europe & fight the entire Nazi military, America decides to send over Ben Affleck to even the scores. Affleck has relationship with posh totty but has to say goodbye in heroic fashion to save the world. He arrives at British airfield base, met by stereotyped token ginger Scot. English pilots (including the general) can't wait to stick their Dick van dyke mistouche's up Afflecks backside.
Air raid siren, Affleck "Get me to a God damn plane!". Affleck takes to the skies and becomes the Commander of the entire British fleet giving everyone else orders and single handedly shooting down 9 Nazi fighters, God bless America !.
Affleck arrives back at British base, General taps him on the shoulder to congratulate on a job well done. "I say, you know, some people hate you yanks for refusing to join in the war, well I say, if your an example of the typical American God help anyone who goes to war with America". Cue Affleck deep in thought smugly reflecting on the days events while cold and calculated music attempts to tug the heart strings.
Affleck takes to the skies to defend British honour once again. This time during a bout of sheer unselfish heroism, Affleck gets shot down, plane crashes into sea, Affleck dead.
Back in good old USA, Hartnett has to deliver news of Affleck to his misses which leads to relationship between the two of them and several speeches like "By God, there goes the best God damn fighter pilot that ever lived!".
Meanwhile somewhere in Japan -
We learn that America has blocked off all oil supplies which force's Japan to take military action against the Pacific fleets. Japan comes off quite well considering their dubious lack of morals at the time, especially for a post 1970's American war movie.
Months pass, Hartnett is enjoying life with his best friends ex girlfriend, but what's this ?. Affleck returns ?. It turns out his plane was shot down and crashed landed in the sea, Affleck than swam to occupied France and went all the way to the Spanish border undetected in stealth mode before hoping on a plane back to the UK and then back to America.
Affleck not happy to see best friend and girlfriend together. Cue all night drinking binge with military grunts. Hartnett and Affleck have drunken slaggin match in public while military buddies say things like "Whoooooow" after each insult similar to a Jerry Springer audience or possibly an old episode of Saved by the Bell.
Affleck and Hartnett are blokes which means they have to have a fist fight (not in a gay way, ....well then again). Military arrive to detain trouble makers, Affleck and Hartnett run away together to talk out their problems.
Japan attacks Pearl Harbor. Only good bit in film, some camera trickery. Japanese fighters are human rather than creatures acting on some primal instinct. We know this to be true because one of the Japanese fighter pilots has a picture of a woman stuck to the dashboard. Lots of explosions, for once Americans are masses of faceless victims rather than individual martyr's.
The film by now is so stuffed with sentimental claptrap and masturbatory stars & stripes flag waving that you can't help but cheer on the Japanese attack. Given the Historical facts of what took place, that isn't really the way the film should come across.
Lots of boats sink, Token black man finds an unmanned machine gun on the back of a boat and uses it to shoot down a Japanese fighter pilot. Not a bad shot considering he's the cook.
Affleck and Hartnett awake from their drunken binge to find the Japanese attacking - Affleck "Just get me to a God damn plane" cue slightly squinting eyes shielding internal out rage.
Affleck spends 15 minutes driving round in circles trying to find a plane. Eventually him and Hartnett take to the skies and start socking it to Jap fighters much to the excitement of their American buddies on the ships below. In fact, some of them are so excited that they even take time out from drowning in the Pacific ocean to punch the air and cheer them on.
Japan withdraws its fighters after sensing the element of surprise is now against them. The mission was a complete success, but that doesn't stop even the Japanese commander from praising their American enemies. "I fear all we have done is awaken sleeping giant Daniel 'son".
Big joke coming up here - US Commander calls Affleck and Hartnett into office. He disciplines them for not wearing regulation clothes in the cockpit of their fighters but really its just a big joke. The real reason he called them into his office was to tell them "By God your the best damn fighter pilots the world has ever seen, here have a medal" cue slightly trembling lip and clutched fist swinging across torso. By now so many men in uniforms have brown nosed Affleck that it could almost pass as homo-eroticism.
The Commander wants Affleck and Hartnett to go on a top secret mission to avenge the Japanese attack, they accept.
Top secret mission is to blast the crap out of Tokyo. We are supposed to condemn the bombing by Japan on an American military fleet but cheer on the American bombing of one of the worlds major cities packed with civilians ?.
Affleck and Hartnett both crash land somewhere in an occupied part of China. Between them they have crashed their planes 3 times and survived. Hartnett is injured, Affleck goes to help but they are quickly captured by Japanese soldiers. Hartnett is being tied up, but what's this ?, Affleck notice's a hand gun within a 3cm distance which the Japanese couldn't be bothered to move. Affleck picks it up and shoots all 4 Japanese soldiers in less than the time it takes one of them to shoot him. But more Japanese arrive with guns pointed at Affleck, Hartnett dives in front and takes the bullets for his best friend. Affleck out raged picks up gun and shoots everyone Chow Yun Fat style.
Affleck arrives back in America, theres no explanation for how he got out of an occupied part of China but I can only imagine he swam home. Totty is pleased to see him, sad to see Hartnett in box.
Shot of American military saluting whilst stars and stripes flag waves in the back ground then narrator kicks in and explains the entire end of the conflict between America and Japan - "Japan saw that they would lose, America believed they would win". Well that's a good enough reason for me !.
Affleck personally gets medal from President.
Film ends and the word Hiroshima wasn't even mentioned once.

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Yes it is quite bad, but the "Token black man" was a real cook who saw his Captain die then manned a gun and got a confirmed kill.
The battle scene was quite amazing, and I certainly wasn't rooting for the Japs as they bombed sailors who were asleep.
You are right about the rest though really, and the woman comes across as a right old slut to me.
Gary A

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So what are you saying Jimmyboy? Don't you like the movie? :confused:
;)

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Sooooooo, i'm guessing u didn't like it then, Jimmyboy? :dork:
Sure, as a history lesson it sux, but as a piece of slick, summer-blockbuster "Entertainment" ..... it Rocked IMHO :thumbs:

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Originally posted by TonyG
Sooooooo, i'm guessing u didn't like it then, Jimmyboy? :dork:
Sure, as a history lesson it sux, but as a piece of slick, summer-blockbuster "Entertainment" ..... it Rocked IMHO :thumbs:
:lol:
Genious.
Ever thought about doing stand-up ?.

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! he stole half my joke (see my "almost funny" post above his). t'was half the same point. :|

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Originally posted by Jimmyboy
Ever thought about doing stand-up ?.
Only if i can use my "Armageddon is a Stunning work of Cinematic Art" speech as an Encore? :p

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never seen it but that is almost exactly how i imagined it to be!!!

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Pearl Harbor is not a great film, but in fairness you should check out the R-rated Director's Cut Vista Series, it's a big improvement on the original version. For one thing, the battle scenes are properly graphic rather than sanitised for the more commercial PG-13 rating, the most interesting character (Alec Baldwin's Doolittle) gets more screentime and dimension, there is more realistic Jap-bashing from the Americans (Tom Sizemore's character refers to them as 'slant-eyed c***suckers'), and some of the love triangle (the conversation on the beach, and the scene before the Tokyo raid where Affleck burns the letters) have been binned, along with some of the worst dialogue (including Kate Beckinsale's infamous 'and then all this happened' clanger). It's still not perfect by any means but it's better than it was. I give Pearl Harbor 5/10 :| and the Director's Cut 7/10:)

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I liked Pearl Harbor as a film, though they nicked the plot from 'Starship Troopers' practically line for line.

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Nice review Jimmyboy, but you forgot to add at the end of it...
<I>I LOVED EVERY MINUTE! :thumbs:</i>
:p

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I thought it was pretty terrible. Friends who saw it with me all liked it first of all but have since changed their minds seeing it for a second time - I just thought it was overblown American stars & stripes gung-ho rubbish that wasn't particularly accurate either.

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Given the hype of the special effects for the actual attack I was seriously not impressed with them........

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Brilliant review Jimmyboy! :lol:
And it's interesting that they felt the need to cut scenes from the director's cut. Not seen anything about it - did they offer any explanation? I'd like to hear them admit how over-egged that pudding of a movie was...

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Yep, I pretty much hated Pearl Habour as well.
However......
Originally posted by Jimmyboy
Japan withdraws its fighters after sensing the element of surprise is now against them. The mission was a complete success, but that doesn't stop even the Japanese commander from praising their American enemies. "I fear all we have done is awaken sleeping giant Daniel 'son".
Apart from the Daniel son bit, Admiral Yamamoto did indeed say that.
Other inaccuracies. The film refers to the Battle of Britain, yet we also see that Ben Afflecks character only goes to join the RAF in 1941. The Battle of Britain was over at that stage, and the Luftwaffe was primarily involved in night bombings and some hit and run attacks during the day.
The US squadrons also suffered huge losses compared to the Canadians, Brits, Poles, Free French and Czechs. So they were certainly not as good as the film makes out :oh-hum:
Mind you, the one redeeming thing about that film is Kate Beckinsale is well fit! :clap:

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Tried to watch this on Sky.
Thanks to it being pan and scaned and all the fast, close up editing the film made absolutley no sense just lots of random shot of nose's, earholes and bad dialouge.
Gave up after twenty minutes.

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My sister made me sit through it at the cinema.........
I was nearly in a coma by the end of it.

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Come one people its Jerry Bruck and Don Simpson special, it was never gonna b much different to be fair.
Great effects and OST even if the actual plot of 2 young super pilots isnt quite realistic.
CS

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Hehe, quality review that.

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Woah! havent seen it yet but you just saved me from wasting 2.5 hours out of my life . I hate historical reenactment movies that slant the truth and add stuff that wasn't there just to make it more "viewable".

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Excellent review Jimmyboy.
I hadn't read it til now, and as I hadn't even seen Pearl Harbour yet you have saved me the trouble watching this U.S. flag waving, hand over the heart movie.
But then again I like Armagedon. Go figure. :oh-hum:

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Originally posted by sharknose
Apart from the Daniel son bit, Admiral Yamamoto did indeed say that.

That's an urban legend. There is no historical evidence that Yamamoto ever said that. Yamamoto was very happy with the outcome of the attack (as he should be) and wrote a jubilant poem to the emperor. The "sleeping giant" bit however, was not part of the poem. In fact the quote seems to originate from the movie Tora! Tora! Tora!. Talk about movies distorting history! For Yamamoto's poem see Stanley Weintraub's "Long Day's Journey Into War".
See also these articles (and I am sure that you'll find more if you do a search in Google like I did ;)): http://www.usni.org/navalhistory/articles01/NHsuid8.html
and
http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/2001/06/04/FFX0IA3PHNC.html

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Great review! :notworthy
Affleck arrives back in America, theres no explanation for how he got out of an occupied part of China but I can only imagine he swam home. :lol:
Now I know I need never sit through this film. Ever. You have my heartfelt thanks.
Boink!

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Superb review - it's made me want to watch the flick again :lol:

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Admittedly, Jimmyboy, a highly amusing review, but you've outlined precisely the reasons why I enjoy it so much! :D

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Thanks Jimmyboy..you spoiled the whole film for me! :mad:
YES! Now I needn't waste my hard earned cash on that tripe! :lol:

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Thanks for the words of approval.
Normally I wouldn't write about a film but I found Pearl Harbor to be so absurd even when taking into account it's a big budget Hollywood historical nonsense movie.
If I've saved just one person from sitting through this film, then my work here is a complete success.:D

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More praise. Your review is excellent, very funny, and confirmed all my suspicions about the movie. So you've saved someone else from having to watch it :)
Thanks
Chris. :clap:

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Oh Jimmyboy, if only I could have shown your review to the girl who dragged me along to the flicks to catch this outrageously expensive piece of tosh.
Suffice to say I don't see her any more :lol:

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Thanks Jimmyboy. Reading that review makes me want to watch the film again. First time round I was completely disgusted, but maybe this time I'll see the funny side of it.

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