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What i would like to know is how they got the gold of at the end
They cut open one of the crew and used his intestines to hoopla the gold and draw it back towards them. Simple really.
They didn't the coach is still there hanging over the edge :D
I wonder if the (bound to be bad) re-make will have the same ending?
who said thry get the gold my friend??
thats up to the viewer to decide what happens!!
They leave the engine running so the fuel tank empties, and as it's at the rear end of the bus the reduction in weight will stabilise the bus.
ok correction if you wanted them to get the gold how would they do it
Wasn't there a sequel proposed where they would all get out safely but the coach would fall down the cliff and the gold back gets back into the hands of the Italians?
New Years Eve probably isnt the night to ask a serious question and expect a serious answer :nuts:
Originally posted by nsb
New Years Eve probably isnt the night to ask a serious question and expect a serious answer :nuts:
That's no excuse, we don't give serious answers ALL year round :nuts:
Thing about the Italian Job is this; when they first go over the cliff, they are all at the end of the bus, yet the bus doesn't go over. They move back to avoid falling, and the bus straightens up a bit. Then, as Caine moves towards the back of the bus to get the gold, the gold moves back, and the bus starts to wobble somewhat. Either Caine is one really heavy git, or there's something wrong there. Surely Caine's weight was not enough to make the bus and the gold move? The gold only moved because the bus moved, and the bus moved because Caine moved towards the back of the bus. See my point? I do, but then again, alcohol is talking for me now. The counterbalancing should have worked, but was shown as not working.
More suited to the movie forum is this :rocker:
Originally posted by splobber
More suited to the movie forum is this :rocker:
Nah, it's not, Splobber. I never frequent the Movie forum. This is an alcohol induced rant, thinly disguised as a discussion about a movie. Its proper place is most definitely in the General Forum. :nuts: :p
The subject of many a pub discussion is this.
My favourite is the one Stephen has mentioned about letting the fuel tank empty a bit.
But there are many other possibilities.
I reckon if they had plenty of time then they manoeuvre as far forward as possible, possibly onto the bonnet of the bus, and then send the lightest person to collect rocks/wood/stuff from the side of the road etc until you have enough weight to counterbalance the lightest or the group going to get the gold bar by bar.
I like to think they made it and got the gold.
That's more or less how I see it.
They were a bit stupid at the start by trying to go for the gold rather than securing the bus. However if they all moved to the drivers end of the bus and got as far back as possible and slowly moved onto the bonnet they could have stabilised the bus. They may have been able to stabalise the bus even further if the lightest person could find rocks to weigh the end down. The lightest person could then move to the end of the bus and move the gold brick by brick to the end.
Did they have other viehcals? They could have been used. Only problem is how to get the bus off the edge if it only had rear wheel drive. It may also have been damaged.
The fuel thing is a bit over complicated. It also assumes the fuel tank is in the back. Even if that worked they'd be using precious fuel.
Ok ive seen it on DVD with the Commentry and the Director says that if they had made a sequal then the following would have happened....
Helicopters would come and would rope the Coach to saftey, Caine and crew would think they are saved but when they come out of the coach they are surrounded by the Italian Mafia
I think thats right but dont quote me on it:smokin:
Here's what they should have done.
1) They all move to the back of the bus.
2) They have a group hug and get in touch with their chakra centres
3) Holding hands, they create a cone of power around the bus
4) Using their collective consiousness, they levitate the bus to saftey
5) They tell the driver off, and say "Be more careful"
6) Escape to victory!
Michael Caine has finally revealed what actually happened (from The Guardian (http://film.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/Guardian/0,4029,906973,00.html)):
It was cinema's greatest cliffhanger. But now Michael Caine has blown the gaff on the ending of The Italian Job.
More than three decades after the release of what has become a cult film, the star has solved the riddle playing on the minds of so many fans: what exactly happened after the credits rolled as his gang's getaway coach teetered on a precipice?
"Hang on a minute, lads. I've got a great idea," Caine's cockney rogue blurts as the robbers' £4m haul of gold bullion threatens to send them over the side of a mountain.
In a BBC1 documentary to celebrate his 70th birthday, the actor has revealed that the gang were meant to escape.
"The next thing that happens is you turn the engine on," he said. "You all sit exactly where you are till all the petrol has run out, which changes the equilibrium. We all jump out and the gold goes over the cliff.
"And at the bottom are the French mafia, sitting waiting for the gold."
Far from being a masterpiece of suspense, it emerges that the ending was intended merely to pave the way for a sequel. Once the gang has escaped, "we are off trying to get it back and that is the next movie," Caine told the Hollywood Greats documentary, to be screened on March 11.
"[The sequel] was never made, because the film didn't do well in America." Nevertheless, The Italian Job has gone on to be seen to epitomise its era thanks to its style, sassiness, and jaunty Quincy Jones soundtrack.
Best known for its cheekily choreographed Mini Cooper car chase and the line: "You're only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!", the film centres on a heist in Turin.
Caine and his gang organise a huge traffic jam, snatch the gold, and escape in Minis, only for their coach to veer off a mountain road as they celebrate their success.
Two years ago the film's scriptwriter revealed that the cast and crew disliked the now famous climax.
"None of us liked the ending at the time," Troy Kennedy Martin told Esquire magazine.
"I didn't even write the final scene in the film. Michael Deeley [the producer] added it after they'd run out of money."
The director, Peter Collinson, hated it so much he made his assistant film it, Kennedy Martin said.
He added: "I never thought the film would be iconic; I don't think Michael did either. The reviews weren't that good either, and of course it didn't have a traditional ending. We didn't realise just how good it was."
Fans who have recovered from knowing the film's "real" ending face more trauma: Paramount is remaking the film for release this summer, with Mark Wahlberg playing Caine's character, Croker.
This would only work if the petrol tank was right at the back of the coach, personally I'm not convinced............ :suspect:
Originally posted by fuzzylogic
I wonder if the (bound to be bad) re-make will have the same ending?
Well, I wouldn't say that's inevitable. Besides, they're hardly remaking a bona-fide cinematic classic, are they? It's certainly diverting enough, but it's nowhere near the cornerstone of British filmmaking that many have made it out to be. Like The Full Monty and Quadrophenia, it's been drastically overrated simply because it's a British film with a bit of spark and life!
nothing with Mini's in (proper one's too, not the crappy BMW thingy...) can be considered overrated!! ;)
The ending of the re-make has them escaping with the gold in a boat, but as they're sailing away to freedom the bus from the original film finally falls of the cliff, lands on them and sinks the boat!
Originally posted by Ayers_UK
The ending of the re-make has them escaping with the gold in a boat, but as they're sailing away to freedom the bus from the original film finally falls of the cliff, lands on them and sinks the boat!
......And everyone is surrounded by talking Apes wearing clothes, etc! :eek:
Oops...wrong re-make!:D
MJ:p
Originally posted by Narshty
...it's nowhere near the cornerstone of British filmmaking that many have made it out to be. Like The Full Monty and Quadrophenia, it's been drastically overrated simply because it's a British film with a bit of spark and life!
Sounds exactly like The Full Monty to me. Italian Job over that any day.
Mike.
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They cut open one of the crew and used his intestines to hoopla the gold and draw it back towards them. Simple really.
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They didn't the coach is still there hanging over the edge :D
I wonder if the (bound to be bad) re-make will have the same ending?
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who said thry get the gold my friend??
thats up to the viewer to decide what happens!!
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They leave the engine running so the fuel tank empties, and as it's at the rear end of the bus the reduction in weight will stabilise the bus.
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ok correction if you wanted them to get the gold how would they do it
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Wasn't there a sequel proposed where they would all get out safely but the coach would fall down the cliff and the gold back gets back into the hands of the Italians?
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New Years Eve probably isnt the night to ask a serious question and expect a serious answer :nuts:
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Originally posted by nsb
New Years Eve probably isnt the night to ask a serious question and expect a serious answer :nuts:
That's no excuse, we don't give serious answers ALL year round :nuts:
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Thing about the Italian Job is this; when they first go over the cliff, they are all at the end of the bus, yet the bus doesn't go over. They move back to avoid falling, and the bus straightens up a bit. Then, as Caine moves towards the back of the bus to get the gold, the gold moves back, and the bus starts to wobble somewhat. Either Caine is one really heavy git, or there's something wrong there. Surely Caine's weight was not enough to make the bus and the gold move? The gold only moved because the bus moved, and the bus moved because Caine moved towards the back of the bus. See my point? I do, but then again, alcohol is talking for me now. The counterbalancing should have worked, but was shown as not working.
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More suited to the movie forum is this :rocker:
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Originally posted by splobber
More suited to the movie forum is this :rocker:
Nah, it's not, Splobber. I never frequent the Movie forum. This is an alcohol induced rant, thinly disguised as a discussion about a movie. Its proper place is most definitely in the General Forum. :nuts: :p
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The subject of many a pub discussion is this.
My favourite is the one Stephen has mentioned about letting the fuel tank empty a bit.
But there are many other possibilities.
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I reckon if they had plenty of time then they manoeuvre as far forward as possible, possibly onto the bonnet of the bus, and then send the lightest person to collect rocks/wood/stuff from the side of the road etc until you have enough weight to counterbalance the lightest or the group going to get the gold bar by bar.
I like to think they made it and got the gold.
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That's more or less how I see it.
They were a bit stupid at the start by trying to go for the gold rather than securing the bus. However if they all moved to the drivers end of the bus and got as far back as possible and slowly moved onto the bonnet they could have stabilised the bus. They may have been able to stabalise the bus even further if the lightest person could find rocks to weigh the end down. The lightest person could then move to the end of the bus and move the gold brick by brick to the end.
Did they have other viehcals? They could have been used. Only problem is how to get the bus off the edge if it only had rear wheel drive. It may also have been damaged.
The fuel thing is a bit over complicated. It also assumes the fuel tank is in the back. Even if that worked they'd be using precious fuel.
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Ok ive seen it on DVD with the Commentry and the Director says that if they had made a sequal then the following would have happened....
Helicopters would come and would rope the Coach to saftey, Caine and crew would think they are saved but when they come out of the coach they are surrounded by the Italian Mafia
I think thats right but dont quote me on it:smokin:
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Here's what they should have done.
1) They all move to the back of the bus.
2) They have a group hug and get in touch with their chakra centres
3) Holding hands, they create a cone of power around the bus
4) Using their collective consiousness, they levitate the bus to saftey
5) They tell the driver off, and say "Be more careful"
6) Escape to victory!
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Michael Caine has finally revealed what actually happened (from The Guardian (http://film.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/Guardian/0,4029,906973,00.html)):
It was cinema's greatest cliffhanger. But now Michael Caine has blown the gaff on the ending of The Italian Job.
More than three decades after the release of what has become a cult film, the star has solved the riddle playing on the minds of so many fans: what exactly happened after the credits rolled as his gang's getaway coach teetered on a precipice?
"Hang on a minute, lads. I've got a great idea," Caine's cockney rogue blurts as the robbers' £4m haul of gold bullion threatens to send them over the side of a mountain.
In a BBC1 documentary to celebrate his 70th birthday, the actor has revealed that the gang were meant to escape.
"The next thing that happens is you turn the engine on," he said. "You all sit exactly where you are till all the petrol has run out, which changes the equilibrium. We all jump out and the gold goes over the cliff.
"And at the bottom are the French mafia, sitting waiting for the gold."
Far from being a masterpiece of suspense, it emerges that the ending was intended merely to pave the way for a sequel. Once the gang has escaped, "we are off trying to get it back and that is the next movie," Caine told the Hollywood Greats documentary, to be screened on March 11.
"[The sequel] was never made, because the film didn't do well in America." Nevertheless, The Italian Job has gone on to be seen to epitomise its era thanks to its style, sassiness, and jaunty Quincy Jones soundtrack.
Best known for its cheekily choreographed Mini Cooper car chase and the line: "You're only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!", the film centres on a heist in Turin.
Caine and his gang organise a huge traffic jam, snatch the gold, and escape in Minis, only for their coach to veer off a mountain road as they celebrate their success.
Two years ago the film's scriptwriter revealed that the cast and crew disliked the now famous climax.
"None of us liked the ending at the time," Troy Kennedy Martin told Esquire magazine.
"I didn't even write the final scene in the film. Michael Deeley [the producer] added it after they'd run out of money."
The director, Peter Collinson, hated it so much he made his assistant film it, Kennedy Martin said.
He added: "I never thought the film would be iconic; I don't think Michael did either. The reviews weren't that good either, and of course it didn't have a traditional ending. We didn't realise just how good it was."
Fans who have recovered from knowing the film's "real" ending face more trauma: Paramount is remaking the film for release this summer, with Mark Wahlberg playing Caine's character, Croker.
This would only work if the petrol tank was right at the back of the coach, personally I'm not convinced............ :suspect:
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Originally posted by fuzzylogic
I wonder if the (bound to be bad) re-make will have the same ending?
Well, I wouldn't say that's inevitable. Besides, they're hardly remaking a bona-fide cinematic classic, are they? It's certainly diverting enough, but it's nowhere near the cornerstone of British filmmaking that many have made it out to be. Like The Full Monty and Quadrophenia, it's been drastically overrated simply because it's a British film with a bit of spark and life!
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nothing with Mini's in (proper one's too, not the crappy BMW thingy...) can be considered overrated!! ;)
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The ending of the re-make has them escaping with the gold in a boat, but as they're sailing away to freedom the bus from the original film finally falls of the cliff, lands on them and sinks the boat!
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Originally posted by Ayers_UK
The ending of the re-make has them escaping with the gold in a boat, but as they're sailing away to freedom the bus from the original film finally falls of the cliff, lands on them and sinks the boat!
......And everyone is surrounded by talking Apes wearing clothes, etc! :eek:
Oops...wrong re-make!:D
MJ:p
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Originally posted by Narshty
...it's nowhere near the cornerstone of British filmmaking that many have made it out to be. Like The Full Monty and Quadrophenia, it's been drastically overrated simply because it's a British film with a bit of spark and life!
Sounds exactly like The Full Monty to me. Italian Job over that any day.
Mike.
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