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I've been building my DVDs collection for a little over a year now, and it just hit me that other then owning Aristocats, I have no classic Disney DVDs :eek:
So, I already have Snow White, Beauty And The Beast and Mary Poppins in my mind's shopping cart - any more you Disney lovers & owners out there could recommend?
And also, a question regarding Alice In Wonderland and Robin Hood - I see they're both full screen... Should I wait for a better release, or is this the best I should expect?
Recommendations and advices would be most appreciated :thumbs:
On a Disney kick myself at the moment and trying get as many Disney dvd's as possible found this site that gives you an idea of what is available... it's a US site so basically only gives you what has been released or is going to be released in the states.
Might be useful, might not :)
http://www.geocities.com/mikemckiernan/disneydvd.html
Depends on what you are buying for: If for yourself I would recommend Hunchback on Notre Dame, which I consider to be the best Disney animated film (but probably not suitable for viewing by very small children). Note R1 and R2 of Hunchback have different supplements.
The 2 disc Atlantis (R1 anyhow, don't know about R2) is the most in-depth and best presented of their 2 disc sets (and includes a handy "play all" function).
The 2 disc Sleeping Beauty coming out mid January is a must buy, as is the orginal Peter Pan and Dumbo (both of which have good supplements) and if you can play R1 discs, don't miss out on The Complete Goofy Treasures Tin (Hurry, its a limited edition). There are other Treasures Tins which you may find appealing too.
Originally posted by GarFra
Might be useful, might not :)
http://www.geocities.com/mikemckiernan/disneydvd.html
Cheers mate, that's a very useful link! :rocker:
2099net - thanks for the specific recommendations :thumbs: I'm happy to hear personal impressions as well as DVD info.
I would also recommend the 2 disc version of Tarzan (which might have been deleted, actually).
Dont bother with the sequels on dvd, more often than not they have a very short running time and no extras. The ones I have bought in the past I feel were a bit of a rip off,most are crap anyway. Stick to the classics,they are amazing,if you want cheap quite a few can be found on reg4 for about £9 each.
Oh yeh..Lilo and Stitch is a MUST!!!
I would also recommend the 2 disc version of Tarzan (which might have been deleted, actually).
The R1 2 disc set is out of print, but I think the R2 is still widely available. However the R1 version is superior as it features a commentary missing from the R2 version, and it's possible other features are missing too.
Originally posted by tizza
Oh yeh..Lilo and Stitch is a MUST!!!
Is there not a 2-disc version of this due out early next year from Disney?
All time classics:
Pinocchio
Dumbo
Jungle Book (not available until 2010 :eek: )
More recent ones I'd recommend:
Atlantis: The Lost Empire
Beauty and the Beast (get the 2-disk now while you can)
Emperor's New Groove
Mulan
Peter Pan
While not greats, the two Rescuers films are very entertaining - cheap from R4.
And let's not forget Winnie the Pooh - no collection is complete without the classic Many adventures of...
All of the Pixar movies!
And, last but not least, a second here for Lilo and Stitch!
(The two disk is rumoured but no date set).
Originally posted by GarFra
Is there not a 2-disc version of this due out early next year from Disney?
Thought I read somewhere that Disney were backing off from releasing two disc versions due to cut backs caused by certain er financial distasters as in 140 million dollar extravaganzas that sank in outer space, anyone for Treasure planet ? It has Jim Hawkins on a space surfboard/skateboard variant (i hate it already)
Is there not a 2-disc version of this due out early next year from Disney?
Well according to other threads here apparently not.
Originally posted by tizza
Is there not a 2-disc version of this due out early next year from Disney?
Well according to other threads here apparently not. Actually apparently it's back on the cards again, but I'm taking everything I'm hearing with a grain of salt. What supposedly happened was that the people at the top cancelled the 2-disc edition but forgot to tell the people that were working on it. The result is that there's a whole load of material in the can that will hopefully see the light of day at some point next year.
Originally posted by stav
And also, a question regarding Alice In Wonderland and Robin Hood - I see they're both full screen... Should I wait for a better release, or is this the best I should expect?
http://uk.imdb.com lists the original aspect ratio of Alice In Wonderland as 1.37:1 which is probably close enough to full-screen to not be worth worrying about too much.
However Robin Hood is listed as 1.75:1 so that's certainly in need of an OAR re-release (although whether it gets one, and when, is another matter entirely).
~~stu
Originally posted by StuBruise
However Robin Hood is listed as 1.75:1 so that's certainly in need of an OAR re-release (although whether it gets one, and when, is another matter entirely).
~~stu Just a slight nitpick, but IMDB is often wrong about Disney's aspect ratios. They list several movies that are actually 1.66:1 as being 1.75:1, among them the two Rescuers films, and The Great Mouse Detective. Robin Hood (and others like One Hundred and One Dalmatians) are probably the same. They also list Lilo & Stitch as being 1.85:1, when in fact it's OAR is 1.66:1. I think what IMDB represents is the ratios in which they were commonly screened (since I don't think you get many 1.66:1 cinemas in the US), not the ratios they were originally intended to have.
Originally posted by Whiggles
Just a slight nitpick, but IMDB is often wrong about Disney's aspect ratios.
You're right, I was going to mention the fact that it's not a 100% reliable guide but forgot; however I think it's probably fair to say that if they list something as 1.85:1 then even if that's wrong it's unlikely to actually be 1.33:1 ;)
~~stu
Well most Disney animated films from the mid 60's onwards are composed for an ideal ratio of about 1.66:1 - but are often cropped to 1.85:1 in cinemas and shown full screen on television and home video.
Ideally the ratio - like Disney's newer releases - should be 1.66:1 (Lilo and Stich or Return to Never Land will not have been shown at this ratio in any cinema) but I can live with the 4:3 framing on the current DVDs. Should a 'super special' edition come along of any of these titles, I would hope the original intended framing will be implemented.
Originally posted by 2099net
Ideally the ratio - like Disney's newer releases - should be 1.66:1 (Lilo and Stich or Return to Never Land will not have been shown at this ratio in any cinema) but I can live with the 4:3 framing on the current DVDs.I have held off buying many Disney DVDs due to them being cropped to 4x3. In my opinion, the aspect ratio is very important in animation, perhaps even more so than live action, due to the precise planinng and framing. Watching my old VHS of One Hundred and One Dalmatians, I notice a lot of really botched shots.
Are they cropped Whiggles? Everything I have read suggests the home versions are actually opened up from the 1.66:1 ratio as Disney animators included extra 'safe areas' as they seemed to be resigned to the fact that their work would eventually be shown on television.
Then again 101 Dalmations was made in the late 50's? Early 60's? Perhaps this was one that was done before their 4:3 'friendly' policy was implemented and it's original ratio was a true 1.85:1.
One Hundred and One Dalmatians is definitely cropped. There are several scenes when the framing looks extremely tight, with important action being somewhat cropped at the sides. Anyway, like I said before, framing is very important to animation, and I wouldn't support an open matte presentation of an animated film any more than I would support one of a live action film.
I second 2099net's recommendation for The Sleeping Beauty. But don't buy the current pan-and-scan DVD version. The Sleeping Beauty was originally shot in super-wide 70mm. To really appreciate this film, you have to see it in all its widescreen splendour! (The 2-disc release in January is in widescreen.)
I have Pinocchio, Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, Peter Pan, Baeuty and the Beast, and Lilo and Stitch.
Pinocchio is my favourite but I haven't seen Lilo and Stitch yet. I also will be getting the Sleeping Beauty special edition.:)
Originally posted by Nautilus
I second 2099net's recommendation for The Sleeping Beauty. But don't buy the current pan-and-scan DVD version.
Full screen is exactly my current dilemma...
I'm definitely getting Beauty And The Beast, Snow White & Bedknobs and Broomsticks, but I also really want Robin Hood - but it's full screen :( with no date (not even rumored) for a special edition...
So, I already have Snow White, Beauty And The Beast and Mary Poppins in my mind's shopping cart - any more you Disney lovers & owners out there could recommend?
And also, a question regarding Alice In Wonderland and Robin Hood - I see they're both full screen... Should I wait for a better release, or is this the best I should expect?
Recommendations and advices would be most appreciated :thumbs:
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On a Disney kick myself at the moment and trying get as many Disney dvd's as possible found this site that gives you an idea of what is available... it's a US site so basically only gives you what has been released or is going to be released in the states.
Might be useful, might not :)
http://www.geocities.com/mikemckiernan/disneydvd.html
Answers:
Depends on what you are buying for: If for yourself I would recommend Hunchback on Notre Dame, which I consider to be the best Disney animated film (but probably not suitable for viewing by very small children). Note R1 and R2 of Hunchback have different supplements.
The 2 disc Atlantis (R1 anyhow, don't know about R2) is the most in-depth and best presented of their 2 disc sets (and includes a handy "play all" function).
The 2 disc Sleeping Beauty coming out mid January is a must buy, as is the orginal Peter Pan and Dumbo (both of which have good supplements) and if you can play R1 discs, don't miss out on The Complete Goofy Treasures Tin (Hurry, its a limited edition). There are other Treasures Tins which you may find appealing too.
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Originally posted by GarFra
Might be useful, might not :)
http://www.geocities.com/mikemckiernan/disneydvd.html
Cheers mate, that's a very useful link! :rocker:
2099net - thanks for the specific recommendations :thumbs: I'm happy to hear personal impressions as well as DVD info.
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I would also recommend the 2 disc version of Tarzan (which might have been deleted, actually).
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Dont bother with the sequels on dvd, more often than not they have a very short running time and no extras. The ones I have bought in the past I feel were a bit of a rip off,most are crap anyway. Stick to the classics,they are amazing,if you want cheap quite a few can be found on reg4 for about £9 each.
Oh yeh..Lilo and Stitch is a MUST!!!
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I would also recommend the 2 disc version of Tarzan (which might have been deleted, actually).
The R1 2 disc set is out of print, but I think the R2 is still widely available. However the R1 version is superior as it features a commentary missing from the R2 version, and it's possible other features are missing too.
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Originally posted by tizza
Oh yeh..Lilo and Stitch is a MUST!!!
Is there not a 2-disc version of this due out early next year from Disney?
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All time classics:
Pinocchio
Dumbo
Jungle Book (not available until 2010 :eek: )
More recent ones I'd recommend:
Atlantis: The Lost Empire
Beauty and the Beast (get the 2-disk now while you can)
Emperor's New Groove
Mulan
Peter Pan
While not greats, the two Rescuers films are very entertaining - cheap from R4.
And let's not forget Winnie the Pooh - no collection is complete without the classic Many adventures of...
All of the Pixar movies!
And, last but not least, a second here for Lilo and Stitch!
(The two disk is rumoured but no date set).
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Originally posted by GarFra
Is there not a 2-disc version of this due out early next year from Disney?
Thought I read somewhere that Disney were backing off from releasing two disc versions due to cut backs caused by certain er financial distasters as in 140 million dollar extravaganzas that sank in outer space, anyone for Treasure planet ? It has Jim Hawkins on a space surfboard/skateboard variant (i hate it already)
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Is there not a 2-disc version of this due out early next year from Disney?
Well according to other threads here apparently not.
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Originally posted by tizza
Is there not a 2-disc version of this due out early next year from Disney?
Well according to other threads here apparently not. Actually apparently it's back on the cards again, but I'm taking everything I'm hearing with a grain of salt. What supposedly happened was that the people at the top cancelled the 2-disc edition but forgot to tell the people that were working on it. The result is that there's a whole load of material in the can that will hopefully see the light of day at some point next year.
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Originally posted by stav
And also, a question regarding Alice In Wonderland and Robin Hood - I see they're both full screen... Should I wait for a better release, or is this the best I should expect?
http://uk.imdb.com lists the original aspect ratio of Alice In Wonderland as 1.37:1 which is probably close enough to full-screen to not be worth worrying about too much.
However Robin Hood is listed as 1.75:1 so that's certainly in need of an OAR re-release (although whether it gets one, and when, is another matter entirely).
~~stu
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Originally posted by StuBruise
However Robin Hood is listed as 1.75:1 so that's certainly in need of an OAR re-release (although whether it gets one, and when, is another matter entirely).
~~stu Just a slight nitpick, but IMDB is often wrong about Disney's aspect ratios. They list several movies that are actually 1.66:1 as being 1.75:1, among them the two Rescuers films, and The Great Mouse Detective. Robin Hood (and others like One Hundred and One Dalmatians) are probably the same. They also list Lilo & Stitch as being 1.85:1, when in fact it's OAR is 1.66:1. I think what IMDB represents is the ratios in which they were commonly screened (since I don't think you get many 1.66:1 cinemas in the US), not the ratios they were originally intended to have.
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Originally posted by Whiggles
Just a slight nitpick, but IMDB is often wrong about Disney's aspect ratios.
You're right, I was going to mention the fact that it's not a 100% reliable guide but forgot; however I think it's probably fair to say that if they list something as 1.85:1 then even if that's wrong it's unlikely to actually be 1.33:1 ;)
~~stu
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Well most Disney animated films from the mid 60's onwards are composed for an ideal ratio of about 1.66:1 - but are often cropped to 1.85:1 in cinemas and shown full screen on television and home video.
Ideally the ratio - like Disney's newer releases - should be 1.66:1 (Lilo and Stich or Return to Never Land will not have been shown at this ratio in any cinema) but I can live with the 4:3 framing on the current DVDs. Should a 'super special' edition come along of any of these titles, I would hope the original intended framing will be implemented.
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Originally posted by 2099net
Ideally the ratio - like Disney's newer releases - should be 1.66:1 (Lilo and Stich or Return to Never Land will not have been shown at this ratio in any cinema) but I can live with the 4:3 framing on the current DVDs.I have held off buying many Disney DVDs due to them being cropped to 4x3. In my opinion, the aspect ratio is very important in animation, perhaps even more so than live action, due to the precise planinng and framing. Watching my old VHS of One Hundred and One Dalmatians, I notice a lot of really botched shots.
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Are they cropped Whiggles? Everything I have read suggests the home versions are actually opened up from the 1.66:1 ratio as Disney animators included extra 'safe areas' as they seemed to be resigned to the fact that their work would eventually be shown on television.
Then again 101 Dalmations was made in the late 50's? Early 60's? Perhaps this was one that was done before their 4:3 'friendly' policy was implemented and it's original ratio was a true 1.85:1.
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One Hundred and One Dalmatians is definitely cropped. There are several scenes when the framing looks extremely tight, with important action being somewhat cropped at the sides. Anyway, like I said before, framing is very important to animation, and I wouldn't support an open matte presentation of an animated film any more than I would support one of a live action film.
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I second 2099net's recommendation for The Sleeping Beauty. But don't buy the current pan-and-scan DVD version. The Sleeping Beauty was originally shot in super-wide 70mm. To really appreciate this film, you have to see it in all its widescreen splendour! (The 2-disc release in January is in widescreen.)
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I have Pinocchio, Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, Peter Pan, Baeuty and the Beast, and Lilo and Stitch.
Pinocchio is my favourite but I haven't seen Lilo and Stitch yet. I also will be getting the Sleeping Beauty special edition.:)
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Originally posted by Nautilus
I second 2099net's recommendation for The Sleeping Beauty. But don't buy the current pan-and-scan DVD version.
Full screen is exactly my current dilemma...
I'm definitely getting Beauty And The Beast, Snow White & Bedknobs and Broomsticks, but I also really want Robin Hood - but it's full screen :( with no date (not even rumored) for a special edition...
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