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earlier today i happened upon this (http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,423772,00.html) list of 'esteemed critic' derek malcolm's top one hundred films, which is interesting reading, and should provide you the oppurtunity to project whatever impression of your cinematic tastes you deem preferable, or not as the case may be :dork: :smokin:

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45 The Story of the Late Chrysanthemums (Kenji Mizoguchi)
Sounds interesting :zzz:

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:eek: I've only seen 20 of those

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I've only seen five! :eek: :eek:

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I think they should do a British Siskel and Ebert-style programme with Derek Malcolm and Paul Ross. I would be truly fascinated to see a film which they both agreed on.

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Originally posted by Pike Bishop
45 The Story of the Late Chrysanthemums (Kenji Mizoguchi)
Sounds interesting :zzz:
If you genuinely think it's only worth sleeping through, it's your loss - if you ever get the chance to catch a good-quality 35mm print, this is one of the most visually ravishing films ever made (Mizoguchi makes his fellow countryman Akira Kurosawa look like Ken Loach), and with an 8.7 average on IMDB, it's clearly not just Derek Malcolm who rates it!
I love idiosyncratic lists like this - it's clearly intended to be polemical, but if just one person is tempted to see something like, say, <I>Blanche, Day of Wrath, The General, Pickpocket</I> or <I>The Battle of Algiers</I> (to name five particular favourites of mine) who might not otherwise have bothered, it will have served its purpose.

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Originally posted by Ol' Blue Eyes
I think they should do a British Siskel and Ebert-style programme with Derek Malcolm and Paul Ross. I would be truly fascinated to see a film which they both agreed on.
Derek Malcolm and Alexander Walker did indeed take part in a Siskel & Ebert-style programme called <I>Now Showing</i> that was piloted as part of Channel Four's <I>Without Walls</I> slot about ten years ago - but it didn't catch on, partly because it had next to no publicity and partly because it wasn't very good (or at least I don't remember it being up to much).

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I've never heard of most of those, never mind seen them ! :)
I have tried to broaden my horizons when it comes to films too since i got my DVD player over three years ago.
I've seen four of the films on the list, compared to approx 70 of the IMDB top 100. Might see if i can get hold of a few of these on DVD over the coming months....

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Seen 47 of them, some of my all time favourites in there - nice to see Behind the Green Door get a mention!

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Originally posted by sweevo
Might see if i can get hold of a few of these on DVD over the coming months....
This isn't exhaustive by any means, but the following are out on DVD:
<UL><LI>1 Touch of Evil (Orson Welles, 1958)
<LI>3 Rio Bravo (Howard Hawks,1959)
<LI>5 L'Atalante (Jean Vigo, 1926) - French only
<LI>6 The Band Wagon (Vincente Minnelli, 1953 )
<LI>9 Throne of Blood (Akira Kurosawa, 1957)
<LI>10 Paths Of Glory (Stanley Kubrick, 1957)
<LI>13 Viridiana (Luis Buñuel, 1961) - French subtitles only
<LI>14 The Night of the Hunter (Charles Laughton, 1955)
<LI>16 Eight and a half (Federico Fellini, 1963)
<LI>15 Freaks (Tod Browning, 1932)
<LI>19 Brief Encounter (David Lean, 1945)
<LI>21 Wild Strawberries (Ingmar Bergman, 1957)
<LI>24 La Belle et La B te (Jean Cocteau,1946)
<LI>25 Shock Corridor (Sam Fuller, 1963)
<LI>27 Pandora's Box (GW Pabst, 1929)
<LI>28 Monsieur Verdoux (Charles Chaplin, 1947)
<LI>32 The Tree of Wooden Clogs (Ermanno Olmi, 1978)
<LI>33 La Collectionneuse (Eric Rohmer, 1967)
<LI>35 Kind Hearts and Coronets (Robert Hamer, 1949)
<LI>37 Closely Observed Trains (Jiri Menzel, 1966)
<LI>38 Double Indemnity (Billy Wilder, 1944)
<LI>39 Fantasia (Walt Disney, 1940)
<LI>40 The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser (Werner Herzog, 1974)
<LI>41 Apocalypse Now (Francis Ford Coppola, 1979)
<LI>42 Les Enfants du Paradis (Marcel Carné,1945)
<LI>43 The General (Buster Keaton1926)
<LI>44 The Birth of a Nation (DW Griffith, 1915)
<LI>46 Raging Bull (Martin Scorsese, 1980)
<LI>49 The King of Marvin Gardens (Bob Rafelson, 1972)
<LI>50 Vertigo (Alfred Hitchcock, 1958)
<LI>52 Broadway Danny Rose (Woody Allen, 1984)
<LI>55 Blue Velvet (David Lynch, 1986)
<LI>56 A Short Film About Killing (Krzysztof Kieslowski, 1988)
(only in the short version, as part of the <I>Dekalog</I> cycle)
<LI>57 A Bout de Souffle (Jean-Luc Godard)
<LI>58 Andrei Rublev (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1966)
<LI>59 The Third Man (Carol Reed, 1949)
<LI>62 Day of Wrath (Carl Dreyer, 1943)
<LI>63 Nanook of the North (Robert Flaherty, 1921)
<LI>64 The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp (Powell and Pressburger,1943)
<LI>65 The Philadelphia Story (George Cukor, 1940)
<LI>67 Jules et Jim (François Truffaut, 1962)
<LI>70 The Scarlet Empress (Josef von Sternberg, 1934)
<LI>76 Le Samourai (Jean-Pierre Melville, 1967)
<LI>78 Oh, Mr Porter! (Marcel Varnel, 1937)
<LI>83 Last Tango in Paris (Bernardo Bertolucci, 1972)
<LI>87 Strike ( Sergei Eisenstein, 1924)
<LI>90 The Gospel According to St Matthew (Pier Paolo Pasolini, 1964)
<LI>91 Sullivan's Travels (Preston Sturges, 1941)
<LI>92 The Leopard (Luchino Visconti, 1963)
<LI>95 Witchfinder General (Michael Reeves, 1968)</ul>
...and that's a very pleasant surprise: I wasn't expecting anything like that number!

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No Peckinpah :(
No De Palma, which is less surprising but still :(

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Originally posted by sweevo
I've never heard of most of those, never mind seen them ! :)
I have tried to broaden my horizons when it comes to films too since i got my DVD player over three years ago.
I've seen four of the films on the list, compared to approx 70 of the IMDB top 100. Might see if i can get hold of a few of these on DVD over the coming months....
I've only seen 4 too!!! I guess that the reason for the difference between this list and the IMDB list is who casts the votes, the IMDB list is voted for by lots of net savvy people, probably mostly quite young, perhaps mostly male.
It's a completely different source of votes to any list compiled by critics or people in the industry. A lot of the films in the IMDB list were made after IMDB started, most votes are cast whilst a film is still showing in the cinema (don't believe me, look at the number of votes for recent films compared to older films).
IMDB Top 250 (http://uk.imdb.com/top_250_films)
longfellow

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Number 95 <I>Witchfinder General</i> (http://film.guardian.co.uk/Century_Of_Films/Story/0,4135,408045,00.html) is on BBC1 Sat 30 Nov, 1:00 am - 2:25 am. :thumbs:

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Well I've seen 11 of them and most within the last few years too. Nothing to do with avoiding these sorts of movies just that they are impossible to find.

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Originally posted by Michael Brooke
If you genuinely think it's only worth sleeping through, it's your loss - if you ever get the chance to catch a good-quality 35mm print, this is one of the most visually ravishing films ever made (Mizoguchi makes his fellow countryman Akira Kurosawa look like Ken Loach), and with an 8.7 average on IMDB, it's clearly not just Derek Malcolm who rates it!

Lighten up m8, I havent actually seen the film I was only commenting on the title. Doesn't exactly sound exciting does it.

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Originally posted by Rollo Tomassi
I've only seen five! :eek: :eek:
I`ve only seen one!!!!! :eek: :eek:

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Coo - I've seen 56! I think I might have to track the remaining ones down on DVD ASAP. *Prays for his credit cards to be "empty" again*

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LOL ... Ive seen 3 and thought one of them was rubbish! :D

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Quite impressive list, althought I really don't agreed on all picks (Why not Fritz Lang's M instead of Beyond Reasonable Doubt etc.)
Seen 58, of which I have on DVD 35. I've always thought that my taste in movies is a bit odd ... :D
Anyway, I think that the following are also available on disk
* 18 Ashes and Diamonds (Andrzej Wajda, 1958)
(Polish disk, with english subtitles - if I remember right)
* 48 McCabe and Mrs Miller (Robert Altman) (Quite new R1 disk)
* 61 Raise the Red Lantern (Zhang Yimou, 1991) (Still avoid this R0 disk at all cost - it exists thought)
* 71 The Passenger (Michelangelo Antonioni, 1975) (Japanese R2 disk)
* 73 Kes (Ken Loach, 1970) (R2 UK disk coming in January)
The worst thing is, that list gave me some ideas (read: my bank will contact me soon ...)

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I think it's one of the more interesting critical lists that I've seen, there are certainly more than a few controversial choices in there.
I'm suprised to discover that I've seen 73 of these (too many years spent around art-house cinemas, I suspect). I also found Malcolm's method of selection a revelation when it came to compiling my own top 100 (choosing a favourite film by his favourite 100 directors, so than no director has more than one film) and would strongly recommend it to those who find compiling lists an anxiety-filled nightmare!!

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No Police Academy 7 :oh-hum:

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Originally posted by meiso
No Police Academy 7 :oh-hum:
No Good Burger either :eek:

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I havent seen any of them!
Originally posted by Creamstick
No Good Burger either :eek:
I prefered the Kenan and Kel Movie personally :D

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Originally posted by ryonhilluk
I prefered the Kenan and Kel Movie personally :D
There's a joke in there somewhere...but damned if I can find it. ;)

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Thanks for the list of what's available on DVD Michael.
I was begining to think that i was running out of films to see. I couldn't have been more wrong by the looks of it ! :)
On the subject IMDB which somebody else brought up. On the whole, my ratings of films (out of 10) seem to match those of IMDB's overall rating. That's why i've used that as my barometer on what to buy most of the time. One thing to bear in mind is that the more votes a film gets, doesn't necessarily mean it will score a higher rating. I think you'll find a lot in the top 250, especially older films, only have between 10-20 thousand votes.

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On the subject IMDB which somebody else brought up. On the whole, my ratings of films (out of 10) seem to match those of IMDB's overall rating. That's why i've used that as my barometer on what to buy most of the time. One thing to bear in mind is that the more votes a film gets, doesn't necessarily mean it will score a higher rating. I think you'll find a lot in the top 250, especially older films, only have between 10-20 thousand votes.
the imdb do use a formula to fiddle with the rankings to reward popularity - otherwise the top 250 would be full of 16mm documentaries about the plight of tibetan monks/iranian women/graffiti artists that receive very high praise from a few individuals with rather esoteric puruits. it is a good read to see bergman, bresson and bruckheimer in competition though :)

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Number 77 on that list - The Battle of Algiers - is an outstanding film. I saw it a few years ago on channel 4. I knew nothing about it beforehand, and caught it quite by accident. As I sat and watched the film, I found it completely compelling from beginning to end.
Strangely enough, even though the film is highly-regarded and considered something of a classic, it's neither available on DVD or video (it was released on VHS under the Tartan video label, but has now been deleted from their catalogue).
Anyway, a very good review of the film by Derek Malcom can be found here (http://film.guardian.co.uk/Century_Of_Films/Story/0,4135,345300,00.html).

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Number 77 on that list - The Battle of Algiers - is an outstanding film. I saw it a few years ago on channel 4. I knew nothing about it beforehand, and caught it quite by accident. As I sat and watched the film, I found it completely compelling from beginning to end.
i remember renting Battle Of Algiers from my local blockbusters not all that long ago!

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Sons of the Desert at number 31, fantastic!
Personally, Way out West is still the best L&H feature, but Mr Malcolm's choice is a close second.
We are the sons of the Deee-seeerrrtttt!
Steve

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Excellent an educated thread at last!
Some super additions to the mill that is top 100 lists.
Seen just over half. Very pleased to see a few underrrated classics
In particular
Young Mr Lincoln (one of Fonda's finest performances)
Burden of Dreams (riveting doc about the equally riveting Fitzcarraldo)
Spirit of the Beehive (charming tale of adolescence)
Fat City (gritty Huston flick with magnificent performance from Stacey Keach)
Boudu saved from Drowning (witty satire by Renoir rather lamely remade as Down and out in Beverly hills)
Gospel according to St Matthew (moving and minimalist interpretation of Christ's ministry)
Sullivan's Travels (Preston Sturges' finest hour - probably the greatest comedy of all time)

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Originally posted by Snuffy
Excellent an educated thread at last!
Some super additions to the mill that is top 100 lists.
Seen just over half. Very pleased to see a few underrrated classics
Burden of Dreams (riveting doc about the equally riveting Fitzcarraldo)

I agree with your other selections but disagree completely with Malcolm's analysis of this being one of the greatest documentaries ever made. A case of a so-so Director getting a lucky call, you only need to look at his generally otherwise middling output for justification of this.
Klaus Kinski, although undoubtedly insane, describes the Fitzcarraldo experience in his astonishing autobiography 'Kinski Uncut' -
"He's (Kinski) also hired Les Blank, a so-called documentary filmmaker, who thinks of nothing but food. He's supposed to shoot a flick about Herzog, but this chow hound is so lazy that he sleeps through everything. If ever, by some chance, he happens to be in the right place at the right time, he dawdles and dawdles until his camera is finally attached to its tripod.."
:zzz: :zzz: ;)

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I can proudly say I've only seen 2 of those, the truly good ones, Blue Velvet and Apocalypse Now.
Well, Double Indemnity was on TV in Femme Fatale...

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Originally posted by Lenny Nero
I can proudly say I've only seen 2 of those, the truly good ones, Blue Velvet and Apocalypse Now.
Stating the obvious, how on earth do you know if they're "the truly good ones" if you've only seen two of them? Whose opinion are you relying on, and why?

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Because most of the others are dated prior to my line of acceptabability, nothing older than about 1975-80. :D
Michael Brooke: :oh-hum: :rolleyes:
Me: :lol: :thumbs:

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LOL - Lenny nero is a nutter but he does know a thing or two about aspect ratios ... :nuts:

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Originally posted by Lenny Nero
Because most of the others are dated prior to my line of acceptabability, nothing older than about 1975-80. :D
I must introduce you to a friend of mine - he refuses to see anything made <U>after</U> 1975! :D

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Originally posted by Michael Brooke
I must introduce you to a friend of mine - he refuses to see anything made <U>after</U> 1975! :D
Sounds like my Dad!

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