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I not sure if this has been posted or not but there is a review of the new film here http://thefacer.net/viewcomment.asp?FBID=101 (warning it may contain spoilers). One thing I did notice is that the running time is 183 minutes !!!! :eek:
Makes you wonder if the Goblet of Fire film will be made in 2 parts.
yea goblet of fire will be 2 parts.
hardly anyone on these forums seems to like the original tho' :(
i thought it was great
i liked it too...
will there even be a goblet of fire movie? there's no contract as of yet... and i heard j.k. rowling is having copyright problems.. the 5th book is wayyy overdue!!
I liked the first one as well and I'm looking forward to Secrets.
I enjoyed the first movie too, hadn't read the books beforehand and now I've read them all bar the final book (so far anyway).
Even bought the DVD after borrowing it from a friend. Shame about the extras mind :oh-hum:
dont see how Goblet would need 2 parts, they could quite easily film it in 2.5 or 3 hours. Cant quite see why this one would need a 3 hour film though.
Cant quite see why this one would need a 3 hour film though.
Because JK Rowling insists that the majority of what she has written appears on the screen, and she has full script approval (quite rightly too).
There are so many people who have read the books, that anything else would lead to disappointment. No matter what you think of the actual books, JK Rowling is an excellent storyteller and there are so many little details from one book which become important in later books, I'm sure this is the only way to do it - who knows what will be revealed by the last book.
the running time is 183 minutes
:shocker: :eek: ...that is real punishment... :nuts:
I heard certain cinema chains will be putting tickets up for sale as of next week!!! :eek: :norty:
Originally posted by 2099net
Because JK Rowling insists that the majority of what she has written appears on the screen, and she has full script approval (quite rightly too).
There are so many people who have read the books, that anything else would lead to disappointment. No matter what you think of the actual books, JK Rowling is an excellent storyteller and there are so many little details from one book which become important in later books, I'm sure this is the only way to do it - who knows what will be revealed by the last book.
There's a difference between script approval and final cut. I assume she doesn't have final cut. If she has then the people who negotiated that contract are fools.
My one complaint of the original was that it was about half an hour too long and it looks like they are going to make an even bigger mistake this time.
Originally posted by cr8zee
i liked it too...
will there even be a goblet of fire movie? there's no contract as of yet... and i heard j.k. rowling is having copyright problems.. the 5th book is wayyy overdue!!
They are being lazy with book 5 she has said right at the start when the first book came out that all 7 have been written. As for the copywright problem the woman who took JK Rowling to court lost so no more copywright problem.
Well i found Goblet to be a pretty drawn out book, defenitly not the best of the series.
so you got the world quidditch match, the few trials which in themselves wouldnt take up more than 10 minutes of film time each and a bit with Voldermort at the end
Really no reason why that would span 2 films at all.
yea but the book is well over the double the length of any of the other books.
reduce it to the events and you have a bare bones story, and thats a rubbish idea.
stephen king does a good explanation at the beginning of one of his anthology books.
you lose characterisation and stuff.
there is a lot of stuff in goblet of fire, that would be hard to get into one film.
I agree - while you may feel that the first flim was too long - a lot of the content of the film will become more important as the other films are released. Who knows - by the time the last film is made perhaps all of it will be important?
JK Rowling is a master storyteller. From reading the first 4 books it is clear that she does have a whole magical world locked up inside her head, and I for one am happy to share it with her.
Regarding GoF - this I feel was the masterpiece of the Harry Potter books so far. I must admit when reading it I got a little board with the trials. But the whole story hangs together so well, all the clues are there but the ending will surprise anybody. Almost everything is required if the conclusion is to make any sense. If only the majority of 'adult' stories could be so well structured.
I don't know about you lot, but I'm fed up with films with lazy writing and plot holes so big you can drive a London Bus through them.
Originally posted by PaulaB
They are being lazy with book 5 she has said right at the start when the first book came out that all 7 have been written.
She has not written all 7 as yet, she only mapped out what she was planning to do in each one. I read the other day that she has completed "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix" but she still wants to tidy up a few things before handing it to the publisher so no publishing date can yet be announced.
Of all the books, I do think "TGOF" is my favourite so far.
I dont know if they will do it in 2 parts - Chris Columbus did say that that's what he wanted to do (back when he was to do all of the films) but isn't sure if Warners would go for it, even though they'd make a mint from it.
Geuss it depends on how well the 2 part Matrix does. If it rakes in the cash, then Warners may go for the 2 part Harry Potter idea...
Do I need to have seen the Philosopher's Stone before watching the Chamber of Secrets?
Is it essential to fully appreciate the movie or would I be able to get away with it?
I would recommned you do watch it just to have full knowledge of Harry's background.
Well obviously no-one is going to appear in your lounge when you put the DVD in with a test to check if you saw the first one ;)
Seriously tho, I think the books/films are reasonably self-contained (especially the earlier ones) so presuming you know that HP is at school learning to be a wizard then you'll probably be fine. I'm not sure how well you can follow the story if you haven't read the books tho - I have, so it's difficult to comment - anyone else???
I haven't read any of the books but have seen Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone 3 times, only really getting it fully on the 3rd watch! I find them quite complicated! Seen the CoS twice, I think I get it now but on my 3rd watch (which will be tonight or tomorrow) I think I'll 'get it' fully.
Just seen COS. Once is enough. :rolleyes:
Read the books, they're better and funnier than the films, also probably takes less time to read COS than to watch the film (3 hours!!!)
Makes you wonder if the Goblet of Fire film will be made in 2 parts.
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yea goblet of fire will be 2 parts.
hardly anyone on these forums seems to like the original tho' :(
i thought it was great
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i liked it too...
will there even be a goblet of fire movie? there's no contract as of yet... and i heard j.k. rowling is having copyright problems.. the 5th book is wayyy overdue!!
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I liked the first one as well and I'm looking forward to Secrets.
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I enjoyed the first movie too, hadn't read the books beforehand and now I've read them all bar the final book (so far anyway).
Even bought the DVD after borrowing it from a friend. Shame about the extras mind :oh-hum:
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dont see how Goblet would need 2 parts, they could quite easily film it in 2.5 or 3 hours. Cant quite see why this one would need a 3 hour film though.
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Cant quite see why this one would need a 3 hour film though.
Because JK Rowling insists that the majority of what she has written appears on the screen, and she has full script approval (quite rightly too).
There are so many people who have read the books, that anything else would lead to disappointment. No matter what you think of the actual books, JK Rowling is an excellent storyteller and there are so many little details from one book which become important in later books, I'm sure this is the only way to do it - who knows what will be revealed by the last book.
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the running time is 183 minutes
:shocker: :eek: ...that is real punishment... :nuts:
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I heard certain cinema chains will be putting tickets up for sale as of next week!!! :eek: :norty:
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Originally posted by 2099net
Because JK Rowling insists that the majority of what she has written appears on the screen, and she has full script approval (quite rightly too).
There are so many people who have read the books, that anything else would lead to disappointment. No matter what you think of the actual books, JK Rowling is an excellent storyteller and there are so many little details from one book which become important in later books, I'm sure this is the only way to do it - who knows what will be revealed by the last book.
There's a difference between script approval and final cut. I assume she doesn't have final cut. If she has then the people who negotiated that contract are fools.
My one complaint of the original was that it was about half an hour too long and it looks like they are going to make an even bigger mistake this time.
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Originally posted by cr8zee
i liked it too...
will there even be a goblet of fire movie? there's no contract as of yet... and i heard j.k. rowling is having copyright problems.. the 5th book is wayyy overdue!!
They are being lazy with book 5 she has said right at the start when the first book came out that all 7 have been written. As for the copywright problem the woman who took JK Rowling to court lost so no more copywright problem.
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Well i found Goblet to be a pretty drawn out book, defenitly not the best of the series.
so you got the world quidditch match, the few trials which in themselves wouldnt take up more than 10 minutes of film time each and a bit with Voldermort at the end
Really no reason why that would span 2 films at all.
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yea but the book is well over the double the length of any of the other books.
reduce it to the events and you have a bare bones story, and thats a rubbish idea.
stephen king does a good explanation at the beginning of one of his anthology books.
you lose characterisation and stuff.
there is a lot of stuff in goblet of fire, that would be hard to get into one film.
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I agree - while you may feel that the first flim was too long - a lot of the content of the film will become more important as the other films are released. Who knows - by the time the last film is made perhaps all of it will be important?
JK Rowling is a master storyteller. From reading the first 4 books it is clear that she does have a whole magical world locked up inside her head, and I for one am happy to share it with her.
Regarding GoF - this I feel was the masterpiece of the Harry Potter books so far. I must admit when reading it I got a little board with the trials. But the whole story hangs together so well, all the clues are there but the ending will surprise anybody. Almost everything is required if the conclusion is to make any sense. If only the majority of 'adult' stories could be so well structured.
I don't know about you lot, but I'm fed up with films with lazy writing and plot holes so big you can drive a London Bus through them.
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Originally posted by PaulaB
They are being lazy with book 5 she has said right at the start when the first book came out that all 7 have been written.
She has not written all 7 as yet, she only mapped out what she was planning to do in each one. I read the other day that she has completed "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix" but she still wants to tidy up a few things before handing it to the publisher so no publishing date can yet be announced.
Of all the books, I do think "TGOF" is my favourite so far.
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I dont know if they will do it in 2 parts - Chris Columbus did say that that's what he wanted to do (back when he was to do all of the films) but isn't sure if Warners would go for it, even though they'd make a mint from it.
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Geuss it depends on how well the 2 part Matrix does. If it rakes in the cash, then Warners may go for the 2 part Harry Potter idea...
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Do I need to have seen the Philosopher's Stone before watching the Chamber of Secrets?
Is it essential to fully appreciate the movie or would I be able to get away with it?
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I would recommned you do watch it just to have full knowledge of Harry's background.
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Well obviously no-one is going to appear in your lounge when you put the DVD in with a test to check if you saw the first one ;)
Seriously tho, I think the books/films are reasonably self-contained (especially the earlier ones) so presuming you know that HP is at school learning to be a wizard then you'll probably be fine. I'm not sure how well you can follow the story if you haven't read the books tho - I have, so it's difficult to comment - anyone else???
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I haven't read any of the books but have seen Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone 3 times, only really getting it fully on the 3rd watch! I find them quite complicated! Seen the CoS twice, I think I get it now but on my 3rd watch (which will be tonight or tomorrow) I think I'll 'get it' fully.
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Just seen COS. Once is enough. :rolleyes:
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Read the books, they're better and funnier than the films, also probably takes less time to read COS than to watch the film (3 hours!!!)
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