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From Empireonline - so take it with a pinch of salt.
They say that only saints and lunatics can know the mind of God and, attempting to tell the story of Jesus in his next project, Mel Gibson looks to be leaning dangerously close to the latter category.
Declaring his intentions to pick up where he left off with the Oscar-winning Braveheart, Gibson has said that he will go back behind the camera for The Passion, a story about the last 12 hours of Jesus' life. Oh, and he wants to do the entire film in two languages that haven't been in common usage for almost two millennia. Without subtitles.
"Obviously, nobody wants to touch something filmed in two dead languages," Gibson illuminated. "They think I'm crazy, and maybe I am. But maybe I'm a genius. I want to show the film without subtitles. Hopefully, I'll be able to transcend language barriers with visual storytelling."
Jim Caviezel - like Gibson, a devout catholic - will give off the divine aura as JC himself during the time leading up to his execution - as theologians out there will know, the accounts of these events in the gospels are known as the 'passion narratives', hence the film's title. "I want to show the humanity of Christ as well as the divine aspect," Gibson explained. "It's a rendering that for me is very realistic and as close as possible to what I perceive the truth to be."
Gibson has already conceded that, if there's enough pressure, he will be forced to give those of us who aren't exactly au fait with the BC vernacular, a little helping hand. "If I fail, I'll put subtitles on it, though I don't want to."
"Taxi for Mr Gibson, Taxi here for a Mr M Gibson"
i think it's a great idea. it'll never work but it'd be great if it did.
be interesting to see how he re-writes history this time round.
Obviously in this movie it'll have been the evil English who crucify Christ - but we'll burn down a few more villages first ;)
Jesus was in fact killed by the english in gibsons version apparently.
lol
Jesus will show his arse at some point in the film and the climax will be a kung-fu fight between Peter and Judas.
:lol:
Originally posted by Harsin
Jesus will show his arse at some point in the film and the climax will be a kung-fu fight between Peter and Judas.
You blasphemous scum!! :mad:
You forgot to say that the song Kung Fu Fighting will be played during the final battle !!! :D :p
Originally posted by Mr Flibble
Obviously in this movie it'll have been the evil English who crucify Christ - but we'll burn down a few more villages first ;) But of course. And don't you know that everything you see in the movies is true?
Originally posted by Spam
be interesting to see how he re-writes history this time round.
Well seeing as every body else as re-written that bit of history a million times why not let Mad Max have a crack.
Can't say i'll be off to see it though.
Well don't forget the famous Jesus dislocates his shoulder scene and then pops it back into place with a mad look in his eyes :rolleyes:
Paul
/me gets his coat :)
I think it would be great if he did this. I certainly would watch it...
And what's the problem with his "English hating"? English were / are SCUM!!!!!!!!11 *
This obviously doesn't mean all English, but only those that are SCUM. Far as I see, the English have done a lot of nasty things in the past. But then so have a lot of other people countries. Can't see the problem myself. :nuts: :rolleyes:
How about a scene with Jesus talking to one of the disciples - it's been a long day doing miracles etc. When the disciple turns to Jesus and utters the imortal lines:
'I'm getting to old for this (you know the rest)'
So why only 2 dead languages?
There are so many more from the ancient world,
Aramaic, Latin, classical Greek, Hebrew and that strange mid pacific Newyork/Canberra twang Anglais thing.
I'll watch Mel in just about anything, but a Passion play?
Word is he's going to do the miracles himself.
:notworthy
Originally posted by Mr Flibble
Obviously in this movie it'll have been the evil English who crucify Christ - but we'll burn down a few more villages first ;)
:lol: Given his track record it's not beyond the realms of possibility :lol:
Originally posted by sanejo
So why only 2 dead languages?
There are so many more from the ancient world,
Aramaic, Latin, classical Greek, Hebrew ....
Exactly what I was thinking - but I suspect they can get away with just aramaic and Latin (then that means there'll be no reading of the Torah in the entire film?! not sure how they'll manage to avoid that...)
sound interesting though but no subs sounds like a way of drumming up more press attention. they'll be there in the end or he may go the Scorcese direction and have Jesus and disciples speaking with a Brooklyn accent!
But maybe I'm a genius.
:lol:
I guess maybe he's losing it in his old age. Apparently he's very pleased that his daughter has decided to become a nun. :oh-hum: He proved with Braveheart that he is competent as a director, but I seriously doubt that any studio is going to back a movie that is in a dead language (or two, as the case may be) with no subtitles.
He can do it in Venusian for all I care..been preached upon for the first 15 years of my life, not a chance in hell :) that I'd go see this.
As for showing Christ as a man, I thought Scorcese's Last Temptation of Christ did that well enough...oh but wait you mean not a PERFECT man??!
Can't stand religions (Anyone's free to believe what they want, but why bother other people with it? )
Rant other, and yes I think Gibson has finally gone completely bonkers, though he's been showing signs (in that one for example) of it for a while (see 'I'm a genius comment' :rolleyes: )
I think his 'Im a genius' comment was meant in jest rather than him losing it. As for all the English hating - in Braveheart it was justified, as for The Patriot, well he didn't write the film, nor direct it, yet all the attention goes to him - why not to the writers/directors?
I think it'll be damn good actually, far more adventurous than most films out there - ecspecially for a A-List name like Gibson.
Good for Gibson, nice to see someone with a bit of crazy ambition. It's a bit disappointing everyone wants to ridicule him for using his stardom to do something that would otherwise never get made. Last Temptation Of Christ was an interesting movie and powerful at times but hindered by some monumentally bad casting and silly modern dialogue. When David Bowie as Pontius Pilate is the most convincing person in your biblical epic, you have problems. Jim Caviezel is a pretty good choice and I like the idea of telling the story visually with no understandable dialogue.
So, it's in Esperanto but whats the other language option? :confused:
Just as long as he makes Mad Max 4 before he goes off the rails completely.
(Thought - Mad Max 4 - Beyond the crucifix? or Mad Max 4 - Judgement Day?))
If he does the life of Jesus, just make sure that there are plenty of pointless rip roaring car chases in it!:lol:
Originally posted by At The Gates
So, it's in Esperanto but whats the other language option? :confused:
Welsh?:nuts:
I don't see the problem with Scorsese's disciples speaking in Brooklyn accents. For one thing., they should be speaking Assyrian and, for another, why do we assume that they would be upper middle-class Englishmen ?
Originally posted by Mike
I don't see the problem with Scorsese's disciples speaking in Brooklyn accents. For one thing., they should be speaking Assyrian and, for another, why do we assume that they would be upper middle-class Englishmen ?
The critics at the time picked on the accents, I never really noticed them. David Bowie worked for me because I bought him as an arrogant Roman but Willem Dafoe as a magnetic leader who inspired men to give up their lives and follow him - no way! Jim Caviezel I could maybe believe in that role. Then you have lines like Harvey Keitel telling Jesus, "What you said about turning the other cheek - I didn't like that". It's a fascinating film and it works in places. Scorsese certainly makes up for all those stoic, picturesque crucifixions with 2 of the most brutal executions ever filmed! He makes Jesus's suffering real but he doesn't bring him alive as a human being.
i really can't see what the problem is with Gibson's proposed film, it sounds like an interesting idea if it ever got made... and Gibson bashing is a bit unfounded in my opinion, Braveheart was a very well directed film, you may have your problems with script, story whatever, he still did a fine job in my opinion.. ditto on Man Without A Face... anyway i personally think he IS an intelligent man, (you may not like his films, but they make money) and could do interesting things with 'The Passion' :)
Why all the bother about speaking the original languages when they're casting an American (of Swiss descent) in the lead?
I suppose the two names so-far attached have some career experience for this enterprise - Caviezel played a suitably spiritual role as a sacrificial lamb in 'The Thin Red Line' and 'Braveheart' had a similar mono-myth structure (compare Wallace and Jesus 'life-stories' please :o)
Madness :nuts:
A man walks up to Mel Gibson.....
Mel:- "Hello, that's a lovely white coat you have on..."
Man:- "Thank-you, now put on this nice tight jacket and come with me please..."
Just read that the film starts shooting on November 4th for 10 weeks. :shocker:
And that "Gibson is in advanced talks with Monica Bellucci to play Mary Magdalene" - well that guarantees my ticket :D
10 weeks? :eek:
That's a tad on the short side - bit like Mel! :p
Apparently the two confirmed "dead" languages to be used are Aramaic and Latin. From the original story (http://abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s682222.htm).
Originally posted by Mike
I don't see the problem with Scorsese's disciples speaking in Brooklyn accents. For one thing., they should be speaking Assyrian and, for another, why do we assume that they would be upper middle-class Englishmen ?
Wasn't really having a go at Scorecese for that - but I do find US accents quite jarring in some instances -Tom Hulce's performance as mozart was ruined in my mind by his accent- illogical I know :D
To be fair to Scorcese the disciples are much closer to reality with Brooklyn accents than with the usual thespian accent - given that they had no education and were simple fishermen (then again they're believed to be a fair sight younger than Keitel and co.)...
Ideally I'd like to have people speaking the correct language - Sunshine for example was a good film but the lack of Hungarian was a little frustrating (Ok Ralph Fiennes doesn't speak Hungarian but he didn't have to be cast in the lead or he could have spoken the lines in Hungarian and then been dubbed - like Irene Jacob in the double life of Weronika) hence why I think that Gibson's idea is quite good. but subs will be necessary - I don't know many people who will have sufficient Biblical knowledge to follow it easily...
I reckon this film will be great! Be nice to see something a bit different for once. All the same old junk is getting a bit tiring, I hardly go to the cinema much now, as it's nearly or the same recycled trash. (with a number of exceptions)...
Why are they using Latin?
The lingua franca of the Roman Empire at the time was Greek. The new testament was also written in Greek.
Originally posted by perfecta
Wasn't really having a go at Scorecese for that - but I do find US accents quite jarring in some instances -Tom Hulce's performance as mozart was ruined in my mind by his accent- illogical I know :D
It's certainly illogical when you consider that the actual spoken languages would have been German and Italian, but I think part of the problem is that the accents are specifically American - i.e. non-European. And the fact that Simon Callow is also putting on an American accent does <U>not</U> help!
It's a tricky one, though - some people criticised the subtitlers of <I>La Haine</I> for using black US street slang, but it's hard to see what else they could have done under the circumstances while still getting the point across. I don't think a literal translation, or a rendition into grammatically-perfect French would have been an improvement!
Getting back on topic, it's not as though Gibson is the first person to propose something like this - Derek Jarman made <I>Sebastiane</I> in 1976 (admittedly on a vastly smaller budget than what Gibson is presumably considering), and that was mostly in Latin (bar a single Greek word, "oedipus" - unfortunately the T&C's don't permit me to spell out what the subtitle translated that as, but let's just say the Prince song 'Sexy MF' provides a clue).
And at least two of Philip Glass's operas are in ancient languages (<I>Satyagraha</I> in Sanskrit and <I>Akhnaten</I> in the ancient Semitic language Akkadian), though I suppose a highly stylised form like opera makes this easier to accept.
Incidentally, Paul Verhoeven's dream project is called <I>Christ The Man</I>, but I think he's waiting until he's near retirement age before attempting it - he said that it would almost certainly be the last film he was ever allowed to make in the US! (Not for the reasons you might expect from the director of <I>Showgirls</I> and <I>Basic Instinct</I> - it's more because his main aim is to debunk Biblical myths, which is likely to go down like the proverbial sausage at a barmitzvah with certain Christian fundamentalist groups)
Shots form the move here:
http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=13876
Do Catholics really think that Jesus looked like Jim Caviezel? :rolleyes:
I think its a brilliant idea... We have thousands of films, this is being radical, innovative, and it should be really interesting and something new in the world of cinema... If people don't like the idea, they don't have to see it, but I'm sure loads of people will be fascinated to see this, like me :) Well done Gibson :nuts:
Originally posted by Harsin
Jesus will show his arse at some point in the film and the climax will be a kung-fu fight between Peter and Judas.
AHA, I remember "Kung Fu Jesus" trailer from Trailervision (http://www.trailervision.com) that would be worth a look :):nuts:
Originally posted by Preacher
Shots form the move here:
http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=13876
Do Catholics really think that Jesus looked like Jim Caviezel? :rolleyes:
looking at the photos it looks like the catholics also have a problem with having him crucified anywhere than in the palms - although there is little doubt that crucifixion meant nailing him through the wrists... Would portraying him differently debunk all the stigmata sufferers?
Eitherway this movie will raise a LOT of debate and issues with people\groups, pitching it as having no subtitles will just raise the intrigue a little bit more for everyone else.
I'd certainly be interested to see what he comes up with.
Did'nt Mel take out an English soldier in "We were soldiers" ?
I read it in a paper, that he was a hero or something and was a big part of the battle in the film, yet he was not in the film.
Just because Mel may not have been the director/writer, he still has alot of power, if he wants something changed in the script, its likely to happen.
Originally posted by Saber
Did'nt Mel take out an English soldier in "We were soldiers" ?
I read it in a paper, that he was a hero or something and was a big part of the battle in the film, yet he was not in the film.
Just because Mel may not have been the director/writer, he still has alot of power, if he wants something changed in the script, its likely to happen.
Lt. Rick Rescorla's exclusion was most unfortunate. I don't know if there was an agenda to exclude him by Gibson or the film studio. He was murdered by terrorist on September 11th, 2001.
BIOGRAPHY OF RICK RESCORLA
http://www.njvvmf.org/Ceremonies/2002/may7th/Rescorla.htm
They say that only saints and lunatics can know the mind of God and, attempting to tell the story of Jesus in his next project, Mel Gibson looks to be leaning dangerously close to the latter category.
Declaring his intentions to pick up where he left off with the Oscar-winning Braveheart, Gibson has said that he will go back behind the camera for The Passion, a story about the last 12 hours of Jesus' life. Oh, and he wants to do the entire film in two languages that haven't been in common usage for almost two millennia. Without subtitles.
"Obviously, nobody wants to touch something filmed in two dead languages," Gibson illuminated. "They think I'm crazy, and maybe I am. But maybe I'm a genius. I want to show the film without subtitles. Hopefully, I'll be able to transcend language barriers with visual storytelling."
Jim Caviezel - like Gibson, a devout catholic - will give off the divine aura as JC himself during the time leading up to his execution - as theologians out there will know, the accounts of these events in the gospels are known as the 'passion narratives', hence the film's title. "I want to show the humanity of Christ as well as the divine aspect," Gibson explained. "It's a rendering that for me is very realistic and as close as possible to what I perceive the truth to be."
Gibson has already conceded that, if there's enough pressure, he will be forced to give those of us who aren't exactly au fait with the BC vernacular, a little helping hand. "If I fail, I'll put subtitles on it, though I don't want to."
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"Taxi for Mr Gibson, Taxi here for a Mr M Gibson"
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i think it's a great idea. it'll never work but it'd be great if it did.
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be interesting to see how he re-writes history this time round.
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Obviously in this movie it'll have been the evil English who crucify Christ - but we'll burn down a few more villages first ;)
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Jesus was in fact killed by the english in gibsons version apparently.
lol
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Jesus will show his arse at some point in the film and the climax will be a kung-fu fight between Peter and Judas.
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:lol:
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Originally posted by Harsin
Jesus will show his arse at some point in the film and the climax will be a kung-fu fight between Peter and Judas.
You blasphemous scum!! :mad:
You forgot to say that the song Kung Fu Fighting will be played during the final battle !!! :D :p
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Originally posted by Mr Flibble
Obviously in this movie it'll have been the evil English who crucify Christ - but we'll burn down a few more villages first ;) But of course. And don't you know that everything you see in the movies is true?
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Originally posted by Spam
be interesting to see how he re-writes history this time round.
Well seeing as every body else as re-written that bit of history a million times why not let Mad Max have a crack.
Can't say i'll be off to see it though.
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Well don't forget the famous Jesus dislocates his shoulder scene and then pops it back into place with a mad look in his eyes :rolleyes:
Paul
/me gets his coat :)
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I think it would be great if he did this. I certainly would watch it...
And what's the problem with his "English hating"? English were / are SCUM!!!!!!!!11 *
This obviously doesn't mean all English, but only those that are SCUM. Far as I see, the English have done a lot of nasty things in the past. But then so have a lot of other people countries. Can't see the problem myself. :nuts: :rolleyes:
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How about a scene with Jesus talking to one of the disciples - it's been a long day doing miracles etc. When the disciple turns to Jesus and utters the imortal lines:
'I'm getting to old for this (you know the rest)'
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So why only 2 dead languages?
There are so many more from the ancient world,
Aramaic, Latin, classical Greek, Hebrew and that strange mid pacific Newyork/Canberra twang Anglais thing.
I'll watch Mel in just about anything, but a Passion play?
Word is he's going to do the miracles himself.
:notworthy
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Originally posted by Mr Flibble
Obviously in this movie it'll have been the evil English who crucify Christ - but we'll burn down a few more villages first ;)
:lol: Given his track record it's not beyond the realms of possibility :lol:
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Originally posted by sanejo
So why only 2 dead languages?
There are so many more from the ancient world,
Aramaic, Latin, classical Greek, Hebrew ....
Exactly what I was thinking - but I suspect they can get away with just aramaic and Latin (then that means there'll be no reading of the Torah in the entire film?! not sure how they'll manage to avoid that...)
sound interesting though but no subs sounds like a way of drumming up more press attention. they'll be there in the end or he may go the Scorcese direction and have Jesus and disciples speaking with a Brooklyn accent!
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But maybe I'm a genius.
:lol:
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I guess maybe he's losing it in his old age. Apparently he's very pleased that his daughter has decided to become a nun. :oh-hum: He proved with Braveheart that he is competent as a director, but I seriously doubt that any studio is going to back a movie that is in a dead language (or two, as the case may be) with no subtitles.
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He can do it in Venusian for all I care..been preached upon for the first 15 years of my life, not a chance in hell :) that I'd go see this.
As for showing Christ as a man, I thought Scorcese's Last Temptation of Christ did that well enough...oh but wait you mean not a PERFECT man??!
Can't stand religions (Anyone's free to believe what they want, but why bother other people with it? )
Rant other, and yes I think Gibson has finally gone completely bonkers, though he's been showing signs (in that one for example) of it for a while (see 'I'm a genius comment' :rolleyes: )
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I think his 'Im a genius' comment was meant in jest rather than him losing it. As for all the English hating - in Braveheart it was justified, as for The Patriot, well he didn't write the film, nor direct it, yet all the attention goes to him - why not to the writers/directors?
I think it'll be damn good actually, far more adventurous than most films out there - ecspecially for a A-List name like Gibson.
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Good for Gibson, nice to see someone with a bit of crazy ambition. It's a bit disappointing everyone wants to ridicule him for using his stardom to do something that would otherwise never get made. Last Temptation Of Christ was an interesting movie and powerful at times but hindered by some monumentally bad casting and silly modern dialogue. When David Bowie as Pontius Pilate is the most convincing person in your biblical epic, you have problems. Jim Caviezel is a pretty good choice and I like the idea of telling the story visually with no understandable dialogue.
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So, it's in Esperanto but whats the other language option? :confused:
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Just as long as he makes Mad Max 4 before he goes off the rails completely.
(Thought - Mad Max 4 - Beyond the crucifix? or Mad Max 4 - Judgement Day?))
If he does the life of Jesus, just make sure that there are plenty of pointless rip roaring car chases in it!:lol:
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Originally posted by At The Gates
So, it's in Esperanto but whats the other language option? :confused:
Welsh?:nuts:
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I don't see the problem with Scorsese's disciples speaking in Brooklyn accents. For one thing., they should be speaking Assyrian and, for another, why do we assume that they would be upper middle-class Englishmen ?
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Originally posted by Mike
I don't see the problem with Scorsese's disciples speaking in Brooklyn accents. For one thing., they should be speaking Assyrian and, for another, why do we assume that they would be upper middle-class Englishmen ?
The critics at the time picked on the accents, I never really noticed them. David Bowie worked for me because I bought him as an arrogant Roman but Willem Dafoe as a magnetic leader who inspired men to give up their lives and follow him - no way! Jim Caviezel I could maybe believe in that role. Then you have lines like Harvey Keitel telling Jesus, "What you said about turning the other cheek - I didn't like that". It's a fascinating film and it works in places. Scorsese certainly makes up for all those stoic, picturesque crucifixions with 2 of the most brutal executions ever filmed! He makes Jesus's suffering real but he doesn't bring him alive as a human being.
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i really can't see what the problem is with Gibson's proposed film, it sounds like an interesting idea if it ever got made... and Gibson bashing is a bit unfounded in my opinion, Braveheart was a very well directed film, you may have your problems with script, story whatever, he still did a fine job in my opinion.. ditto on Man Without A Face... anyway i personally think he IS an intelligent man, (you may not like his films, but they make money) and could do interesting things with 'The Passion' :)
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Why all the bother about speaking the original languages when they're casting an American (of Swiss descent) in the lead?
I suppose the two names so-far attached have some career experience for this enterprise - Caviezel played a suitably spiritual role as a sacrificial lamb in 'The Thin Red Line' and 'Braveheart' had a similar mono-myth structure (compare Wallace and Jesus 'life-stories' please :o)
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Madness :nuts:
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A man walks up to Mel Gibson.....
Mel:- "Hello, that's a lovely white coat you have on..."
Man:- "Thank-you, now put on this nice tight jacket and come with me please..."
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Just read that the film starts shooting on November 4th for 10 weeks. :shocker:
And that "Gibson is in advanced talks with Monica Bellucci to play Mary Magdalene" - well that guarantees my ticket :D
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10 weeks? :eek:
That's a tad on the short side - bit like Mel! :p
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Apparently the two confirmed "dead" languages to be used are Aramaic and Latin. From the original story (http://abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s682222.htm).
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Originally posted by Mike
I don't see the problem with Scorsese's disciples speaking in Brooklyn accents. For one thing., they should be speaking Assyrian and, for another, why do we assume that they would be upper middle-class Englishmen ?
Wasn't really having a go at Scorecese for that - but I do find US accents quite jarring in some instances -Tom Hulce's performance as mozart was ruined in my mind by his accent- illogical I know :D
To be fair to Scorcese the disciples are much closer to reality with Brooklyn accents than with the usual thespian accent - given that they had no education and were simple fishermen (then again they're believed to be a fair sight younger than Keitel and co.)...
Ideally I'd like to have people speaking the correct language - Sunshine for example was a good film but the lack of Hungarian was a little frustrating (Ok Ralph Fiennes doesn't speak Hungarian but he didn't have to be cast in the lead or he could have spoken the lines in Hungarian and then been dubbed - like Irene Jacob in the double life of Weronika) hence why I think that Gibson's idea is quite good. but subs will be necessary - I don't know many people who will have sufficient Biblical knowledge to follow it easily...
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I reckon this film will be great! Be nice to see something a bit different for once. All the same old junk is getting a bit tiring, I hardly go to the cinema much now, as it's nearly or the same recycled trash. (with a number of exceptions)...
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Why are they using Latin?
The lingua franca of the Roman Empire at the time was Greek. The new testament was also written in Greek.
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Originally posted by perfecta
Wasn't really having a go at Scorecese for that - but I do find US accents quite jarring in some instances -Tom Hulce's performance as mozart was ruined in my mind by his accent- illogical I know :D
It's certainly illogical when you consider that the actual spoken languages would have been German and Italian, but I think part of the problem is that the accents are specifically American - i.e. non-European. And the fact that Simon Callow is also putting on an American accent does <U>not</U> help!
It's a tricky one, though - some people criticised the subtitlers of <I>La Haine</I> for using black US street slang, but it's hard to see what else they could have done under the circumstances while still getting the point across. I don't think a literal translation, or a rendition into grammatically-perfect French would have been an improvement!
Getting back on topic, it's not as though Gibson is the first person to propose something like this - Derek Jarman made <I>Sebastiane</I> in 1976 (admittedly on a vastly smaller budget than what Gibson is presumably considering), and that was mostly in Latin (bar a single Greek word, "oedipus" - unfortunately the T&C's don't permit me to spell out what the subtitle translated that as, but let's just say the Prince song 'Sexy MF' provides a clue).
And at least two of Philip Glass's operas are in ancient languages (<I>Satyagraha</I> in Sanskrit and <I>Akhnaten</I> in the ancient Semitic language Akkadian), though I suppose a highly stylised form like opera makes this easier to accept.
Incidentally, Paul Verhoeven's dream project is called <I>Christ The Man</I>, but I think he's waiting until he's near retirement age before attempting it - he said that it would almost certainly be the last film he was ever allowed to make in the US! (Not for the reasons you might expect from the director of <I>Showgirls</I> and <I>Basic Instinct</I> - it's more because his main aim is to debunk Biblical myths, which is likely to go down like the proverbial sausage at a barmitzvah with certain Christian fundamentalist groups)
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Shots form the move here:
http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=13876
Do Catholics really think that Jesus looked like Jim Caviezel? :rolleyes:
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I think its a brilliant idea... We have thousands of films, this is being radical, innovative, and it should be really interesting and something new in the world of cinema... If people don't like the idea, they don't have to see it, but I'm sure loads of people will be fascinated to see this, like me :) Well done Gibson :nuts:
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Originally posted by Harsin
Jesus will show his arse at some point in the film and the climax will be a kung-fu fight between Peter and Judas.
AHA, I remember "Kung Fu Jesus" trailer from Trailervision (http://www.trailervision.com) that would be worth a look :):nuts:
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Originally posted by Preacher
Shots form the move here:
http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=13876
Do Catholics really think that Jesus looked like Jim Caviezel? :rolleyes:
looking at the photos it looks like the catholics also have a problem with having him crucified anywhere than in the palms - although there is little doubt that crucifixion meant nailing him through the wrists... Would portraying him differently debunk all the stigmata sufferers?
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Eitherway this movie will raise a LOT of debate and issues with people\groups, pitching it as having no subtitles will just raise the intrigue a little bit more for everyone else.
I'd certainly be interested to see what he comes up with.
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Did'nt Mel take out an English soldier in "We were soldiers" ?
I read it in a paper, that he was a hero or something and was a big part of the battle in the film, yet he was not in the film.
Just because Mel may not have been the director/writer, he still has alot of power, if he wants something changed in the script, its likely to happen.
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Originally posted by Saber
Did'nt Mel take out an English soldier in "We were soldiers" ?
I read it in a paper, that he was a hero or something and was a big part of the battle in the film, yet he was not in the film.
Just because Mel may not have been the director/writer, he still has alot of power, if he wants something changed in the script, its likely to happen.
Lt. Rick Rescorla's exclusion was most unfortunate. I don't know if there was an agenda to exclude him by Gibson or the film studio. He was murdered by terrorist on September 11th, 2001.
BIOGRAPHY OF RICK RESCORLA
http://www.njvvmf.org/Ceremonies/2002/may7th/Rescorla.htm
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