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After owning about 40 different titles with extras on another disc, I have realised that I havent really examined the second disc.
To be honest, I dont think that its really important to include loads of extras. Ive only watched 2 films with directors commenary running. So why do you think its important to include one?
I remember watching a film(cant remember the title). Totally confused by the ending, so watched it with audio commentary AND...still made no sense.Director sounded bored and wasnt really interested.
Planet of the Apes 2001?
Gary A
Originally posted by GAmbrose
Planet of the Apes 2001?
Gary A
Oh yeah, Thats another one!
I never watch the extras, apart from maybe Deleted Scenes (which are usually deleted for a reason) or Alternative Endings .. still the extras are nice to have.
Watching Interviews sometimes makes me loose respect for the actors when you see how much of a idiot they are out of character :D
I think some 2nd disc are done really well and interesting, Black Hawk Down R2 for example is really enjoyable for me. There like 3 hours of making of in 1 section alone, I sat there and watched it all and all are really good. But some are pants and boring, I haven't looked at Moulin Rouge, Magnolia, Gladiators, Armagedon.... in depth yet, only the trailers and music videos.
I actually like commentary on some of the films, it really depends on the director/cast. I usually find a cast commentary more enjoyable.
Its people's obsession with being afraid to be left out.
If there are two versions of a DVD people will buy the version with all the extras on it because they have got it into their heads they must being missing something if the buy the barebones release.
Its like when people felt they needed to get onto the internet and when they did they didn't know what to do with it except send emails. :dork:
I no longer care about extras I just want to see the film as cheaply as possible. Which leaves me more money to see other films.
I only ever buy 2 disk collectors editions now - cos I dont want to end up with a ridiculous large collection ala VHS which will become worthless and takes up lots of space.
Originally posted by Squirtle
I only ever buy 2 disk collectors editions now - cos I dont want to end up with a ridiculous large collection ala VHS which will become worthless and takes up lots of space.
So, that's ruling out about 80 per cent of DVDs on the market that will almost certainly never have a two disc special edition! (Withnail and I, Das Boot, Le Haine (French edition), and Life of Brian Criterion to name but a few excellent 1-disc DVDs.)
I've been both here and there on this subject :)
When I started my collection, right after getting my dvd player, I was totally clueless and got barebones dvds just because I had no idea there were region & editions differences.
Quickly enough I realized what's going on, and soon I was making a point of not getting a film on dvd if it only had a barebones release.
I thought it missed the whole point of this media.
Now, many SEs later, I'm starting to realize that a) I will never have time to watch all those extras and b) when finally making the time, 99% of them are crap.
So now I'm getting a special/limited/collector's edition only if I know it's worth it (for example, after borrowing my friend's Phantom Menace 2-disc and watching its brilliant documentary) or if I read a really good review about it (Total Film's dvds reviews and these forums are a good source of recommendations).
Otherwise I would go for the cheapest option and save my money for those Criterions I have in my wish-I-had-loads-of-money wish list.
Some of the extra's I find interesting - namely deleted scenes, alternative endings, making of's and documenteries about the sunject of the film (like Gladiator), but even then I'll normally only watch them if I really like the film.
What does ****** me off, is when a region 2 disc is released as a 2-disc special edition at a premium price and the R1 version is on one disc at a normal price - like This is Spinal Tap
Depends on the quality of the extras.
I'm as interested in the making of a film and so if the extras actually give a feel of that then I'm all for a SE. If the SE is however full of puff pieces then it's not worth the cash.
I suppose some stand outs for me are SW: Phantom Menace (where the extras are as interesting as the film itself - although I'm not sure if that says more about the film), T2 UE and Gladiator.
Most of the two disk sets I have are a complete waste of a second disk as far as I am concerned. The second disk generally only gets looked at once, if ever.
Off the top of my head, the only two-disk sets I have which I feel actually warrant two disks are R1 Wicker Man (different version of the film on each disk), and R2 This is Spinal Tap (basically an extra film made up from deleted scenes on the second disk).
Actually, to be honest, 90% of the time I find all the extras are a complete waste of space.
Give me a decent transfer and decent sound mix, and I'm a happy man. Maybe throw in a decent, informative, commentry track for good measure.
Most releases espically in R1 with 2 disc sets cost the same so whats the point in whining? :confused:
I always buy a 2-disc edition if it's available. I love going through the extras, and I usually end up making my way through all of them sooner or later. Generally a 2-disc edition doesn't cost a huge amount more than a single disc edition, so even if the extras aren't always great, it's not exactly like I'm losing out. Of course I'm disappointed if the extras are crap, but I'm not so anal as to say "The extras are crap. They shouldn't have put them in at all."
Many 2-disc sets (AB's Bad Taste, Unbreakable, O Brother Where Art Thou) are just marketing gimmicks, produced to fool the customer into thinking that he/she is getting more than they actually are. Of course I buy DVDs for the film itself and will only upgrade if the extras make it worthwhile. This hasn't happened up to now but all this will change when "Singin' in the Rain" is re-released. I love it when an old classic has deleted scenes, commentaries etc. as these seem to be genuine finds not just some movie exec. saying, "shoot more than you have to so we have something extra to put on the DVD" (I'm so cynical).
I dont really watch extras either to be honest. However, its nice to have them. I think its more of the non Home Cinema guys that watch em.
One man's rubbish is another mans gold!
The R2 version of Raging Bull was a prime example of a wasted two disk set. There must have been all of about 30 mins of extras on it!
To be honest, I dont think that its really important to include loads of extras. Ive only watched 2 films with directors commenary running. So why do you think its important to include one?
I remember watching a film(cant remember the title). Totally confused by the ending, so watched it with audio commentary AND...still made no sense.Director sounded bored and wasnt really interested.
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Planet of the Apes 2001?
Gary A
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Originally posted by GAmbrose
Planet of the Apes 2001?
Gary A
Oh yeah, Thats another one!
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I never watch the extras, apart from maybe Deleted Scenes (which are usually deleted for a reason) or Alternative Endings .. still the extras are nice to have.
Watching Interviews sometimes makes me loose respect for the actors when you see how much of a idiot they are out of character :D
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I think some 2nd disc are done really well and interesting, Black Hawk Down R2 for example is really enjoyable for me. There like 3 hours of making of in 1 section alone, I sat there and watched it all and all are really good. But some are pants and boring, I haven't looked at Moulin Rouge, Magnolia, Gladiators, Armagedon.... in depth yet, only the trailers and music videos.
I actually like commentary on some of the films, it really depends on the director/cast. I usually find a cast commentary more enjoyable.
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Its people's obsession with being afraid to be left out.
If there are two versions of a DVD people will buy the version with all the extras on it because they have got it into their heads they must being missing something if the buy the barebones release.
Its like when people felt they needed to get onto the internet and when they did they didn't know what to do with it except send emails. :dork:
I no longer care about extras I just want to see the film as cheaply as possible. Which leaves me more money to see other films.
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I only ever buy 2 disk collectors editions now - cos I dont want to end up with a ridiculous large collection ala VHS which will become worthless and takes up lots of space.
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Originally posted by Squirtle
I only ever buy 2 disk collectors editions now - cos I dont want to end up with a ridiculous large collection ala VHS which will become worthless and takes up lots of space.
So, that's ruling out about 80 per cent of DVDs on the market that will almost certainly never have a two disc special edition! (Withnail and I, Das Boot, Le Haine (French edition), and Life of Brian Criterion to name but a few excellent 1-disc DVDs.)
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I've been both here and there on this subject :)
When I started my collection, right after getting my dvd player, I was totally clueless and got barebones dvds just because I had no idea there were region & editions differences.
Quickly enough I realized what's going on, and soon I was making a point of not getting a film on dvd if it only had a barebones release.
I thought it missed the whole point of this media.
Now, many SEs later, I'm starting to realize that a) I will never have time to watch all those extras and b) when finally making the time, 99% of them are crap.
So now I'm getting a special/limited/collector's edition only if I know it's worth it (for example, after borrowing my friend's Phantom Menace 2-disc and watching its brilliant documentary) or if I read a really good review about it (Total Film's dvds reviews and these forums are a good source of recommendations).
Otherwise I would go for the cheapest option and save my money for those Criterions I have in my wish-I-had-loads-of-money wish list.
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Some of the extra's I find interesting - namely deleted scenes, alternative endings, making of's and documenteries about the sunject of the film (like Gladiator), but even then I'll normally only watch them if I really like the film.
What does ****** me off, is when a region 2 disc is released as a 2-disc special edition at a premium price and the R1 version is on one disc at a normal price - like This is Spinal Tap
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Depends on the quality of the extras.
I'm as interested in the making of a film and so if the extras actually give a feel of that then I'm all for a SE. If the SE is however full of puff pieces then it's not worth the cash.
I suppose some stand outs for me are SW: Phantom Menace (where the extras are as interesting as the film itself - although I'm not sure if that says more about the film), T2 UE and Gladiator.
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Most of the two disk sets I have are a complete waste of a second disk as far as I am concerned. The second disk generally only gets looked at once, if ever.
Off the top of my head, the only two-disk sets I have which I feel actually warrant two disks are R1 Wicker Man (different version of the film on each disk), and R2 This is Spinal Tap (basically an extra film made up from deleted scenes on the second disk).
Actually, to be honest, 90% of the time I find all the extras are a complete waste of space.
Give me a decent transfer and decent sound mix, and I'm a happy man. Maybe throw in a decent, informative, commentry track for good measure.
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Most releases espically in R1 with 2 disc sets cost the same so whats the point in whining? :confused:
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I always buy a 2-disc edition if it's available. I love going through the extras, and I usually end up making my way through all of them sooner or later. Generally a 2-disc edition doesn't cost a huge amount more than a single disc edition, so even if the extras aren't always great, it's not exactly like I'm losing out. Of course I'm disappointed if the extras are crap, but I'm not so anal as to say "The extras are crap. They shouldn't have put them in at all."
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Many 2-disc sets (AB's Bad Taste, Unbreakable, O Brother Where Art Thou) are just marketing gimmicks, produced to fool the customer into thinking that he/she is getting more than they actually are. Of course I buy DVDs for the film itself and will only upgrade if the extras make it worthwhile. This hasn't happened up to now but all this will change when "Singin' in the Rain" is re-released. I love it when an old classic has deleted scenes, commentaries etc. as these seem to be genuine finds not just some movie exec. saying, "shoot more than you have to so we have something extra to put on the DVD" (I'm so cynical).
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I dont really watch extras either to be honest. However, its nice to have them. I think its more of the non Home Cinema guys that watch em.
One man's rubbish is another mans gold!
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The R2 version of Raging Bull was a prime example of a wasted two disk set. There must have been all of about 30 mins of extras on it!
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