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Went to see "Signs" the other night which has been given that new 12A certificate. Just before the film started a baby began to cry!!! Yes someone had decided that Signs would be acceptable for a baby to see!! All though the film, during the tense quiet moments baby cries!!! Arghhh!!! The British public should not be given the choice, this problem will only get worse....
Why hire a babysitter when you can just take the kids to the cinema????
The cinema should ensure that such things do not happen (ie. babies being admitted) but as most multiplex chains are staffed by semi-retarded, barely comprehensible, educationally challenged complete and utter morons there really isn't any hope is there!
Oh and the same goes for the majority of the audience too!
edit - and on a more serious note the films themselves are now being targeted to the 12 and below market too. It's already the norm in Hollywood to go for the widest possible demographic friendly cert of PG-13. With the 12A cert in the UK, distributors will now be more likely to accept cuts (from the BBFC) for the category. For example the previously uncut 15 of "Charlie's Angels" would (if released now) probably be a cut 12A (Sony said "no" to cuts for 12 on initial release but with the extra box office £s of the 12A they probably won't do the same again).
You should of complained to the manager, got some free tickets/refund and go and see a "15" or "18" film next time :)
Well - the baby could've been an extra service by the cinema to help you stay awake during "Signs". :p
Originally posted by Richie
but as most multiplex chains are staffed by semi-retarded, barely comprehensible, educationally challenged complete and utter morons there really isn't any hope is there!
I haven't been impressed with RST's posts either :eek:
TBH, people who work there don't always have the easiest job. Do you fancy arguing the toss with the parents, then explaining to the manager why you are turning business away. If you are not satisfied with the film, complain. It is the only way something will get done.
Originally posted by Richie
The cinema should ensure that such things do not happen (ie. babies being admitted) but as most multiplex chains are staffed by semi-retarded, barely comprehensible, educationally challenged complete and utter morons there really isn't any hope is there!
Oh and the same goes for the majority of the audience too!
:notworthy Couldn't agree more.
"If you are not satisfied with the film, complain. It is the only way something will get done."
You mean like when I recently went to collect "Road to Perdition" preview tkts at my local WB?! I presented the voucher that the WB website emailed me.
The gimp in the booth says "I've never heard of this film we are not showing it" (which must of course mean that it doesn't exist!). She checks with her manager "not heard of it" he says "Tell 'em to try another cinema".
The poster was on the wall IN FRONT of her booth!
The trailer had been playing for weeks IN THE SAME CINEMA!
The offer came directly from that cinema!
One quick email to the head of promos at WB and I now have several free tickets and a nice apology for WB employing utter retards!
edit - sorry, will try not to digress further!
People moan about the bbfc perhaps rating some films too high when it's clear a younger audience would be okay to see them, now they do something about it and still people moan.
Sadly in all walks of life you will always get the people who think they can bring their home viewing habits into a movie theatre.
Originally posted by utero
you will always get the people who think they can bring their home viewing habits into a movie theatre.
Mr nail, say "hello" to Mr head.
I don't mind young people going to to the cinema to see a 12A film.
I just want them to be quiet through the films which so far hasn't happened.
I was watching The Bourne Idendtity which I liked but had to ignore the kids at the back (who were obvious skipping school) talking through 70% of the film. They even started a burping contest to see who was the loudest.
I am not going to the cinema until The Two Towers is on, and I better get silence during that. During LOTR:FOTR I got kids talking that they prefered Harry Potter, luckily they left.
I cannot see how people can pay a fiver for tickets and then buy tonnes of popcorn/drink and then not watch the film because the are pratting about.
If you think cinema's bad in the UK, try being an ex-pat living in Ireland! It's farcical. The ratings obviously mean nothing and they'll let anyone in regardelss of age. My last experience was The Sum Of All Fears. The kids behind us (around 8y.o.). Decided it was a little too boring and started kicking seats and talking throughout the 20 minutes of the movie my girlfriend and I watched before walking out.
We spoke to a manger who apologised but refused to eject the kids from the cinema! So I ask you. Who's more important to the cinema manager....a regular cinema goer or some ignorant, poorly behaved kids!
Originally posted by nwgarratt
I cannot see how people can pay a fiver for tickets and then buy tonnes of popcorn/drink and then not watch the film because they are pratting about.
I expect they do it to be with their friends and be away from their parents, and the cinema is a handy place to sit down and hide, it's obviously not because they want to watch the film.
I tend to go first thing on a Sunday morning as there seem to be far less morons about.
It's a pity they don't start some sort of film club, and have special members showings of films, it needn't be expensive but they could ban people from being a member if they cause any disturbance.
Exactly the same thing happened to me on Monday...however the kids being taken to the cinema probably aged 5,7 and 9. Can't see a film about alien invasion being suitable...the teenagers in the from row were even telling them to be quiet...however they did let the side down a bit by throwing popcorn and ice at the offenders.
Sad really as it was just because their Mum wanted to see a "Mel Gibson" film...
I'll definitely be sticking to 15 and 18 films in the future!
Originally posted by Richie
The cinema should ensure that such things do not happen (ie. babies being admitted) but as most multiplex chains are staffed by semi-retarded, barely comprehensible, educationally challenged complete and utter morons there really isn't any hope is there!
Excuse me?!? We aren't all like that you know.
Originally posted by Joober
Excuse me?!? We aren't all like that you know.
I said "most" ;)
Only going on my personal experiences...
Personally, I'm waiting for the American ratings system to take us over completely. Then we'll have 18a, like the US 'R' rating.
I saw Desperado on opening night in Times Square. A couple of parents thought it would be a suitable film to bring their 2-year old to.
Needless to say, the little brat screamed every time a gun went off :rolleyes:
And people wonder why I've only been to the cinema 6 times in the past year. :)
Why don't The DVD Forums members all pool together and open our own cinema. Then we can let in those we choose to, and ban everyone that is disruptive!!
Originally posted by Richie
I said "most" ;)
good! :p
so far. the only times where i've had a totally acceptable cinema visit, has been either when i go early in the day and there are only a handful of people, or elderly viewers who i must say are generally the best behaved... or when i pay the extra buck for the delux screen, which will have zero amount of kids kicking chairs etc.. because they'll be accompanied by parents etc.. and generally the audience will be less likely to speak through the film etc... but really we shouldn't have to pay extra for people to be polite to each other.
But people are complaining about kids, in my experience, it's actually adults who **** me off more, kids don't know better, so you can 'sort' of forgive them.. but adults are different, if they can't shut up during a film, then no forgiveness at all for them, and i ain't talking about yobs either.. in fact crying babies don't annoy me too much, it's the parents who don't decide to leave the film... you don't bring in pet dogs to a theatre and let them bark out throughout do you? i'm not a parent, but i'd have thought that would have to be a sacrifice you make during the first few yrs of having a baby, so either get a babysitter or don't go to a theatre surrounded by adults who want to watch a film! :oh-hum:
The best solution I can think of is to only allow under 16s to attend certain performances, like weekend matinees and very early evenings but as has been pointed out, this doesn't stop adults talking and leaving their phones on. Realistically, multiplex cinemas can't afford to have to have staff in attendance in all their screens but there's no excuse for not ejecting troublemakers once it's been reported. Managers should either grow some balls or hire harder staff.
Originally posted by nwgarratt
I was watching The Bourne Idendtity which I liked but had to ignore the kids at the back (who were obvious skipping school) talking through 70% of the film. They even started a burping contest to see who was the loudest.
this happened to me as well, except the people responsible were in their 20s.
you'll always get idiots who have absolutely no respect or any interest in the film (probably due to their lack of intelligence and therefore poor attention span) spoiling it for others.
pretty much every time i go to the cinema i end up sitting in front of some dickhead who insists on talking all the way through the film, which is why i hardly ever go.
Originally posted by tj_director
But people are complaining about kids, in my experience, it's actually adults who **** me off more, kids don't know better, so you can 'sort' of forgive them.. but adults are different, if they can't shut up during a film, then no forgiveness at all for them, and i ain't talking about yobs either.. in fact crying babies don't annoy me too much, it's the parents who don't decide to leave the film... you don't bring in pet dogs to a theatre and let them bark out throughout do you? i'm not a parent, but i'd have thought that would have to be a sacrifice you make during the first few yrs of having a baby, so either get a babysitter or don't go to a theatre surrounded by adults who want to watch a film! :oh-hum:
a good point, well made. :clap:
Having had a better sound system than my local Beckenham and Catford (RIP) fleapits for years, I tend not to go that often. But many times before in said fleapits, a few idiots - pre and post teen - have talked and joked throughout the whole feature, and the 12A means that even more of these pre-teen plums (who 'don't know better' apparently) will get in.
Thankfully the new Warner Village in Croydon has been virtually empty of idiots, young or old, many a time. I saw Panic Room, Blade 2, Minority Report and Episode 2 (the latter two on opening day) and they were idiot free. And every time I go in people moan about the place and walk out saying 'it's not as good as the Purley Way one' - when it's the same! Idiots.
Back to the topic - my first experience with the 12A will be tomorrow. I'm gonna go and catch Bourne Identity (at the aforementioned WV) and see what happens...
Originally posted by Niceguygeoff
Having had a better sound system than my local Beckenham and Catford (RIP) fleapits for years,
Isn't Beckenham any better since Odeon took it over? I remember seeing Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back there in 1981 and it was the flea pit to end all flea pits. I saw The Last Starfighter at Catford. Now I've gone all nostalgic!
It's not always kids though, when I saw Panic Room at the Manchester Filmworks there was a horrid woman cackling maniacally for NO reason during all the tense parts (of which there are a few!) and it was so bloody annoying! Maybe instead of just age ratings, cinemas should impose a No Moron Admitted law!
Usher: I'm sorry sir this film has neen cerfticated NMA, you will have to watch Tomb Raider instead
Yep old grannies can be the worst... :mad: when we went to see Valentine, everytime someone got stabbed the two grannies next to us laughed out loud, and the talked about it for 2 or 3 mins. :nuts:
Soon there will be an 18A, anyone under 18 can see it with a parent or Guardian over 18 and anyone over 18 can see it anyway.
So Basically it elimates the reasoning for Certifacates in the first place.
:dork: :dork: :dork:
Why hire a babysitter when you can just take the kids to the cinema????
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The cinema should ensure that such things do not happen (ie. babies being admitted) but as most multiplex chains are staffed by semi-retarded, barely comprehensible, educationally challenged complete and utter morons there really isn't any hope is there!
Oh and the same goes for the majority of the audience too!
edit - and on a more serious note the films themselves are now being targeted to the 12 and below market too. It's already the norm in Hollywood to go for the widest possible demographic friendly cert of PG-13. With the 12A cert in the UK, distributors will now be more likely to accept cuts (from the BBFC) for the category. For example the previously uncut 15 of "Charlie's Angels" would (if released now) probably be a cut 12A (Sony said "no" to cuts for 12 on initial release but with the extra box office £s of the 12A they probably won't do the same again).
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You should of complained to the manager, got some free tickets/refund and go and see a "15" or "18" film next time :)
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Well - the baby could've been an extra service by the cinema to help you stay awake during "Signs". :p
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Originally posted by Richie
but as most multiplex chains are staffed by semi-retarded, barely comprehensible, educationally challenged complete and utter morons there really isn't any hope is there!
I haven't been impressed with RST's posts either :eek:
TBH, people who work there don't always have the easiest job. Do you fancy arguing the toss with the parents, then explaining to the manager why you are turning business away. If you are not satisfied with the film, complain. It is the only way something will get done.
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Originally posted by Richie
The cinema should ensure that such things do not happen (ie. babies being admitted) but as most multiplex chains are staffed by semi-retarded, barely comprehensible, educationally challenged complete and utter morons there really isn't any hope is there!
Oh and the same goes for the majority of the audience too!
:notworthy Couldn't agree more.
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"If you are not satisfied with the film, complain. It is the only way something will get done."
You mean like when I recently went to collect "Road to Perdition" preview tkts at my local WB?! I presented the voucher that the WB website emailed me.
The gimp in the booth says "I've never heard of this film we are not showing it" (which must of course mean that it doesn't exist!). She checks with her manager "not heard of it" he says "Tell 'em to try another cinema".
The poster was on the wall IN FRONT of her booth!
The trailer had been playing for weeks IN THE SAME CINEMA!
The offer came directly from that cinema!
One quick email to the head of promos at WB and I now have several free tickets and a nice apology for WB employing utter retards!
edit - sorry, will try not to digress further!
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People moan about the bbfc perhaps rating some films too high when it's clear a younger audience would be okay to see them, now they do something about it and still people moan.
Sadly in all walks of life you will always get the people who think they can bring their home viewing habits into a movie theatre.
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Originally posted by utero
you will always get the people who think they can bring their home viewing habits into a movie theatre.
Mr nail, say "hello" to Mr head.
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I don't mind young people going to to the cinema to see a 12A film.
I just want them to be quiet through the films which so far hasn't happened.
I was watching The Bourne Idendtity which I liked but had to ignore the kids at the back (who were obvious skipping school) talking through 70% of the film. They even started a burping contest to see who was the loudest.
I am not going to the cinema until The Two Towers is on, and I better get silence during that. During LOTR:FOTR I got kids talking that they prefered Harry Potter, luckily they left.
I cannot see how people can pay a fiver for tickets and then buy tonnes of popcorn/drink and then not watch the film because the are pratting about.
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If you think cinema's bad in the UK, try being an ex-pat living in Ireland! It's farcical. The ratings obviously mean nothing and they'll let anyone in regardelss of age. My last experience was The Sum Of All Fears. The kids behind us (around 8y.o.). Decided it was a little too boring and started kicking seats and talking throughout the 20 minutes of the movie my girlfriend and I watched before walking out.
We spoke to a manger who apologised but refused to eject the kids from the cinema! So I ask you. Who's more important to the cinema manager....a regular cinema goer or some ignorant, poorly behaved kids!
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Originally posted by nwgarratt
I cannot see how people can pay a fiver for tickets and then buy tonnes of popcorn/drink and then not watch the film because they are pratting about.
I expect they do it to be with their friends and be away from their parents, and the cinema is a handy place to sit down and hide, it's obviously not because they want to watch the film.
I tend to go first thing on a Sunday morning as there seem to be far less morons about.
It's a pity they don't start some sort of film club, and have special members showings of films, it needn't be expensive but they could ban people from being a member if they cause any disturbance.
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Exactly the same thing happened to me on Monday...however the kids being taken to the cinema probably aged 5,7 and 9. Can't see a film about alien invasion being suitable...the teenagers in the from row were even telling them to be quiet...however they did let the side down a bit by throwing popcorn and ice at the offenders.
Sad really as it was just because their Mum wanted to see a "Mel Gibson" film...
I'll definitely be sticking to 15 and 18 films in the future!
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Originally posted by Richie
The cinema should ensure that such things do not happen (ie. babies being admitted) but as most multiplex chains are staffed by semi-retarded, barely comprehensible, educationally challenged complete and utter morons there really isn't any hope is there!
Excuse me?!? We aren't all like that you know.
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Originally posted by Joober
Excuse me?!? We aren't all like that you know.
I said "most" ;)
Only going on my personal experiences...
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Personally, I'm waiting for the American ratings system to take us over completely. Then we'll have 18a, like the US 'R' rating.
I saw Desperado on opening night in Times Square. A couple of parents thought it would be a suitable film to bring their 2-year old to.
Needless to say, the little brat screamed every time a gun went off :rolleyes:
And people wonder why I've only been to the cinema 6 times in the past year. :)
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Why don't The DVD Forums members all pool together and open our own cinema. Then we can let in those we choose to, and ban everyone that is disruptive!!
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Originally posted by Richie
I said "most" ;)
good! :p
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so far. the only times where i've had a totally acceptable cinema visit, has been either when i go early in the day and there are only a handful of people, or elderly viewers who i must say are generally the best behaved... or when i pay the extra buck for the delux screen, which will have zero amount of kids kicking chairs etc.. because they'll be accompanied by parents etc.. and generally the audience will be less likely to speak through the film etc... but really we shouldn't have to pay extra for people to be polite to each other.
But people are complaining about kids, in my experience, it's actually adults who **** me off more, kids don't know better, so you can 'sort' of forgive them.. but adults are different, if they can't shut up during a film, then no forgiveness at all for them, and i ain't talking about yobs either.. in fact crying babies don't annoy me too much, it's the parents who don't decide to leave the film... you don't bring in pet dogs to a theatre and let them bark out throughout do you? i'm not a parent, but i'd have thought that would have to be a sacrifice you make during the first few yrs of having a baby, so either get a babysitter or don't go to a theatre surrounded by adults who want to watch a film! :oh-hum:
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The best solution I can think of is to only allow under 16s to attend certain performances, like weekend matinees and very early evenings but as has been pointed out, this doesn't stop adults talking and leaving their phones on. Realistically, multiplex cinemas can't afford to have to have staff in attendance in all their screens but there's no excuse for not ejecting troublemakers once it's been reported. Managers should either grow some balls or hire harder staff.
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Originally posted by nwgarratt
I was watching The Bourne Idendtity which I liked but had to ignore the kids at the back (who were obvious skipping school) talking through 70% of the film. They even started a burping contest to see who was the loudest.
this happened to me as well, except the people responsible were in their 20s.
you'll always get idiots who have absolutely no respect or any interest in the film (probably due to their lack of intelligence and therefore poor attention span) spoiling it for others.
pretty much every time i go to the cinema i end up sitting in front of some dickhead who insists on talking all the way through the film, which is why i hardly ever go.
Originally posted by tj_director
But people are complaining about kids, in my experience, it's actually adults who **** me off more, kids don't know better, so you can 'sort' of forgive them.. but adults are different, if they can't shut up during a film, then no forgiveness at all for them, and i ain't talking about yobs either.. in fact crying babies don't annoy me too much, it's the parents who don't decide to leave the film... you don't bring in pet dogs to a theatre and let them bark out throughout do you? i'm not a parent, but i'd have thought that would have to be a sacrifice you make during the first few yrs of having a baby, so either get a babysitter or don't go to a theatre surrounded by adults who want to watch a film! :oh-hum:
a good point, well made. :clap:
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Having had a better sound system than my local Beckenham and Catford (RIP) fleapits for years, I tend not to go that often. But many times before in said fleapits, a few idiots - pre and post teen - have talked and joked throughout the whole feature, and the 12A means that even more of these pre-teen plums (who 'don't know better' apparently) will get in.
Thankfully the new Warner Village in Croydon has been virtually empty of idiots, young or old, many a time. I saw Panic Room, Blade 2, Minority Report and Episode 2 (the latter two on opening day) and they were idiot free. And every time I go in people moan about the place and walk out saying 'it's not as good as the Purley Way one' - when it's the same! Idiots.
Back to the topic - my first experience with the 12A will be tomorrow. I'm gonna go and catch Bourne Identity (at the aforementioned WV) and see what happens...
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Originally posted by Niceguygeoff
Having had a better sound system than my local Beckenham and Catford (RIP) fleapits for years,
Isn't Beckenham any better since Odeon took it over? I remember seeing Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back there in 1981 and it was the flea pit to end all flea pits. I saw The Last Starfighter at Catford. Now I've gone all nostalgic!
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It's not always kids though, when I saw Panic Room at the Manchester Filmworks there was a horrid woman cackling maniacally for NO reason during all the tense parts (of which there are a few!) and it was so bloody annoying! Maybe instead of just age ratings, cinemas should impose a No Moron Admitted law!
Usher: I'm sorry sir this film has neen cerfticated NMA, you will have to watch Tomb Raider instead
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Yep old grannies can be the worst... :mad: when we went to see Valentine, everytime someone got stabbed the two grannies next to us laughed out loud, and the talked about it for 2 or 3 mins. :nuts:
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Soon there will be an 18A, anyone under 18 can see it with a parent or Guardian over 18 and anyone over 18 can see it anyway.
So Basically it elimates the reasoning for Certifacates in the first place.
:dork: :dork: :dork:
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