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Sorry if this was raised recently (again) but I was looking at this on BBC2 Saturday and the first 45 minutes or so were in 1.85:1 then it morphed into Fullscreen..I think at the 1920's flashback with the gorgeous Elizabeth McGovern..I thought the whole thing was 1.33:1..correct? And the sound drop outs were very annoying, in the 1.85:1 section. Beeb make a boo-boo?
Didn't watch it but it ALL should have been 1.85:1
Where you watching it on Terrestrial or Digital TV?
Maybe some :dork: at BBC toggled the anamorphic squash mid program. Thus stretching the picture to fill the screen.
Terrestrial..didn't looked at all stretched when it switched to fullscreen.
Very strange.
i remember watching higher learning a while ago (on terrestrial) and halfway through it switched from letterbox to anamorphic. most strange. looked much better though.
as for once upon a time in america, i watched it all and didn't notice it switch aspect ratio.
meiso..it certainly did on the 4:3 set..terrestrial.
I watched it on digital, and it's stayed 1.85:1 all the way through.
The OAR is 1.85:1 and I watched first hour or so on SKY Digitial and all looked OK then watch the rest on Terrestrial BBC2 and again didn't notice any change with TV set to Wide mode :)
Stunning film... :thumbs:
Watched in fiancées house..definitely changed to fullscreen after 45 minutes or so. I remember thinking 'WTF? Must post this on forums on Monday when I get back to work'. Maybe BBC2 Northern Ireland issue.
It's 100% definitely 1.85:1 - it's the only Leone film that isn't 2.35:1 because he watched <I>Once Upon a Time in the West</I> on Italian telly in the late 1970s and was so appalled by the panning and scanning that he vowed that no future film of his would ever be mutilated like that again.
just watched this for the first time - wow!! Can someone please state what the best dvd version of this is to get please, I wanna get it asap and watch it all again!!!
Originally posted by Yonathan Gal
just watched this for the first time - wow!! Can someone please state what the best dvd version of this is to get please, I wanna get it asap and watch it all again!!!
It's only currently available on a Brazilian ful frame effort.
The Warner US Laserdisc is 1.85:1.
Talk of a SE DVD in the future.
You mean to tell me it hasn't been released on dvd.:shocker:
That's criminal.:oh-hum:
Oh well, I much look forward to an SE of thi film, it truly was astonishing, and Morricone's music is, once again, just incredible...
i didnt think Morricones music was THAT great in this film. A lot of it seemed more catchy than beautiful, i suppose it suited the movie very well, but nothing i would listen on my CD player for.
OUATIW is just the best.
i didnt think Morricones music was THAT great in this film. A lot of it seemed more catchy than beautiful, i suppose it suited the movie very well, but nothing i would listen on my CD player for.
:shocker:
It's fantastic - playing it now.. one of the best CDs I own.
Saying that, my collection is full of David Gates & Rod Stewart, but I love it..
:thumbs:
the Once Upon A Time In The West soundtrack far outclasses it though.
Yeah but "Deborah's Theme" is about the most beautiful piece of music Morricone has written. Wonderful.
Deborah = Elizabeth McGovern = image of girl I met in niteclub recently = GORGEOUS (http://us.imdb.com/Name?McGovern,+Elizabeth) :notworthy
I recorded this off air on Sat night [analogue terrestrial].
There is no change in apect ratio at any time.This was a very nice widescreen transfer of possibly my favourite film. I have already compared it to my Brazilian DVD , the DVD is definately panned and scammed - just in case there was any lingering doubt[and the sound is crap].
So those of you who watched it which camp do you fall into...
That the WHOLE of the 60's (old Noodles) segment was an opium fuelled fantasy - that Noodles racked with guilt at having inadvertanely killed his friends dreamt! :shocker:
...or that the 60's segment where <i>really</i> some huge ploy concocted by Max to pull the wool over Noodles eyes for 30 years! :confused:
The latter, definitely. This is where the film is so ironic.....
BNoodles thinks he has killed his friends and has carried that guilt all those years when all the time it was Max who manipulated Noodles into calling the police and so Noodles suffered 30 years of guilt for nothing, in effect he lost 30 years of his life.
Well I prefer the former, and it holds more water if you read the book is based on "The Hoods"The book doesn't contain any 60's segment and it also has lots of depections of Noodles having opium fuelled dreams (of him, Max et al as Knights in Camelot and other wacked out stuff etc) the only reason I can see Leone omitting any reference to the opium dreams was because the 60's segment <I>was</i> the opium dream!
It was just done to be seen BOTH ways. Done so well that the majority of viewer don't even notice...
Infact I'd seen this film about 4 times over the course of 8 years when I read the opium fantasy POV on a teletext review late at night! I was so shocked I couldn't get to sleep for hours! :dork:
However this explaination has to assume that Noodles could see into the future and predict the invention of the TV for his fantasy! :p
...but the opium fantasy angle certainly explains the final shot of De Niro wacked out smiling at the audience.
Originally posted by Michael Brooke
It's 100% definitely 1.85:1 - it's the only Leone film that isn't 2.35:1 because he watched <I>Once Upon a Time in the West</I> on Italian telly in the late 1970s and was so appalled by the panning and scanning that he vowed that no future film of his would ever be mutilated like that again.
Having seen and handled one, I can confirm that cinema prints were matted to 1.85:1. However, it is possible that this matting was added during post-production at internegative stage, and the film was actually shot open-matte.
Originally posted by thedapman
Yeah but "Deborah's Theme" is about the most beautiful piece of music Morricone has written. Wonderful.
I'm sure I've heard the music from this film play at the oscars. IIRC, it usually plays when they go through the list of people who have passed away during the year.
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Didn't watch it but it ALL should have been 1.85:1
Where you watching it on Terrestrial or Digital TV?
Maybe some :dork: at BBC toggled the anamorphic squash mid program. Thus stretching the picture to fill the screen.
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Terrestrial..didn't looked at all stretched when it switched to fullscreen.
Very strange.
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i remember watching higher learning a while ago (on terrestrial) and halfway through it switched from letterbox to anamorphic. most strange. looked much better though.
as for once upon a time in america, i watched it all and didn't notice it switch aspect ratio.
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meiso..it certainly did on the 4:3 set..terrestrial.
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I watched it on digital, and it's stayed 1.85:1 all the way through.
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The OAR is 1.85:1 and I watched first hour or so on SKY Digitial and all looked OK then watch the rest on Terrestrial BBC2 and again didn't notice any change with TV set to Wide mode :)
Stunning film... :thumbs:
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Watched in fiancées house..definitely changed to fullscreen after 45 minutes or so. I remember thinking 'WTF? Must post this on forums on Monday when I get back to work'. Maybe BBC2 Northern Ireland issue.
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It's 100% definitely 1.85:1 - it's the only Leone film that isn't 2.35:1 because he watched <I>Once Upon a Time in the West</I> on Italian telly in the late 1970s and was so appalled by the panning and scanning that he vowed that no future film of his would ever be mutilated like that again.
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just watched this for the first time - wow!! Can someone please state what the best dvd version of this is to get please, I wanna get it asap and watch it all again!!!
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Originally posted by Yonathan Gal
just watched this for the first time - wow!! Can someone please state what the best dvd version of this is to get please, I wanna get it asap and watch it all again!!!
It's only currently available on a Brazilian ful frame effort.
The Warner US Laserdisc is 1.85:1.
Talk of a SE DVD in the future.
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You mean to tell me it hasn't been released on dvd.:shocker:
That's criminal.:oh-hum:
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Oh well, I much look forward to an SE of thi film, it truly was astonishing, and Morricone's music is, once again, just incredible...
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i didnt think Morricones music was THAT great in this film. A lot of it seemed more catchy than beautiful, i suppose it suited the movie very well, but nothing i would listen on my CD player for.
OUATIW is just the best.
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i didnt think Morricones music was THAT great in this film. A lot of it seemed more catchy than beautiful, i suppose it suited the movie very well, but nothing i would listen on my CD player for.
:shocker:
It's fantastic - playing it now.. one of the best CDs I own.
Saying that, my collection is full of David Gates & Rod Stewart, but I love it..
:thumbs:
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the Once Upon A Time In The West soundtrack far outclasses it though.
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Yeah but "Deborah's Theme" is about the most beautiful piece of music Morricone has written. Wonderful.
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Deborah = Elizabeth McGovern = image of girl I met in niteclub recently = GORGEOUS (http://us.imdb.com/Name?McGovern,+Elizabeth) :notworthy
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I recorded this off air on Sat night [analogue terrestrial].
There is no change in apect ratio at any time.This was a very nice widescreen transfer of possibly my favourite film. I have already compared it to my Brazilian DVD , the DVD is definately panned and scammed - just in case there was any lingering doubt[and the sound is crap].
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So those of you who watched it which camp do you fall into...
That the WHOLE of the 60's (old Noodles) segment was an opium fuelled fantasy - that Noodles racked with guilt at having inadvertanely killed his friends dreamt! :shocker:
...or that the 60's segment where <i>really</i> some huge ploy concocted by Max to pull the wool over Noodles eyes for 30 years! :confused:
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The latter, definitely. This is where the film is so ironic.....
BNoodles thinks he has killed his friends and has carried that guilt all those years when all the time it was Max who manipulated Noodles into calling the police and so Noodles suffered 30 years of guilt for nothing, in effect he lost 30 years of his life.
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Well I prefer the former, and it holds more water if you read the book is based on "The Hoods"The book doesn't contain any 60's segment and it also has lots of depections of Noodles having opium fuelled dreams (of him, Max et al as Knights in Camelot and other wacked out stuff etc) the only reason I can see Leone omitting any reference to the opium dreams was because the 60's segment <I>was</i> the opium dream!
It was just done to be seen BOTH ways. Done so well that the majority of viewer don't even notice...
Infact I'd seen this film about 4 times over the course of 8 years when I read the opium fantasy POV on a teletext review late at night! I was so shocked I couldn't get to sleep for hours! :dork:
However this explaination has to assume that Noodles could see into the future and predict the invention of the TV for his fantasy! :p
...but the opium fantasy angle certainly explains the final shot of De Niro wacked out smiling at the audience.
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Originally posted by Michael Brooke
It's 100% definitely 1.85:1 - it's the only Leone film that isn't 2.35:1 because he watched <I>Once Upon a Time in the West</I> on Italian telly in the late 1970s and was so appalled by the panning and scanning that he vowed that no future film of his would ever be mutilated like that again.
Having seen and handled one, I can confirm that cinema prints were matted to 1.85:1. However, it is possible that this matting was added during post-production at internegative stage, and the film was actually shot open-matte.
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Originally posted by thedapman
Yeah but "Deborah's Theme" is about the most beautiful piece of music Morricone has written. Wonderful.
I'm sure I've heard the music from this film play at the oscars. IIRC, it usually plays when they go through the list of people who have passed away during the year.
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