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Latest trailer for Red Dragon (http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/red_dragon/trailer2.html) is up on Apple.com
It's looking good.
Originally posted by Arch Stanton
Latest trailer for Red Dragon (http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/red_dragon/trailer2.html) is up on Apple.com
It's looking good.
But its not Manhunter so I'll doubt I'll bother with it :)
That trailer looks pretty good. I hope with a cast like that it won't fail but you never know.
I liked Manhunter but IMHO it has aged a lot so I have high hopes for this one.
Originally posted by Damonc
That trailer looks pretty good. I hope with a cast like that it won't fail but you never know.
I liked Manhunter but IMHO it has aged a lot so I have high hopes for this one.
No way MAN! Manhunter is still classic, got a feeling red Dragon will be *****.
When people say Manhunter has aged a lot are they talking about the 80's feel to the film? If so I don't understand why that's a problem, thw story is set in the 80's & should have an 80's feel! If Red Dragon doesn't feel like it's set in the 80's (which the 1st trailer most certainly did not) then Ratner has cocked up big time.
That trailer gives away a few plot points. No matter to most as we've seen Manhunter and some of us have read the book - but when will they learn?
:sad:
Mr Stanton has never liked 'Manhunter' ( far too many reason's to list :) ) but the books the strongest of the three and the trailer certainly pushes the right buttons.
I agree with Mr Stanton that the book is definitely the best of the three. I feel that the film has aged due to the (again IMHO) Miami Vice look and feel that Mann carried into this film. It just encompasses everything that I dislike about the 80s.
Originally posted by Damonc
I liked Manhunter but IMHO it has aged a lot so I have high hopes for this one.
Yeah, it’s soooo eighties. Same reason Casablanca and Citizen Kane suck - they’re soooo forties man. Give me only movies made within the last week. Everything else bites!
:oh-hum:
Originally posted by jonathan.e
Yeah, it’s soooo eighties. Same reason Casablanca and Citizen Kane suck - they’re soooo forties man. Give me only movies made within the last week. Everything else bites!
Yes but these films have a style about them that is timeless. I don't feel that Manhunter has that style. I'll say it again, it is just my humble opinion. I'm not asking you to agree with it. Your welcome to your own.
Whilst I do feel that Manhunter has aged, especially due to that horrific 80's cheese music there's one thing I'm not sure about and that's if Edward Nortons performance can beat William L Petersons from Manhunter.
Petersons performance was fantastic in Manhunter and he played the role of a troubled detective/profiler brilliantly. I would also generally consider Peterson a better actor than Norton anyway - he was superb also in To Live And Die In LA, a criminally underrated film and he's great in CSI as well.
That's not to say I don't want to see Red Dragon, in fact I am quite keen to see it, and Norton could easily prove me wrong - it'll be interesting to see none the less :)
Agree with Mr-Woo. Don't think Norton can better Peterson's performance especially after seeing the trailer for Red Dragon that I have seen, in which Norton looked absolutely awful. Also I don't think there is any way in the world that Tom Noonan's portrayl of Francis Dollarhyde could ever be bettered.
It looks OK to me - and while I agree it'll have difficulty beating Manhunter, it certainly looks like a film worth watching. I still have some doubts over Ratner's ability - but if the script's good enough, maybe it'll bring out the best in him.
Thoughts on the trailer -looks OK- great cast- but Brian Cox delievered the 'home phone number' better than Hopkins;)
Well I'm a big Manhunter fan and I'll be watching this. I'm hoping for the best but expecting the worst - That way I'll not be disappointed and might even be pleasantly surprised :)
Originally posted by jonathan.e
Yeah, it’s soooo eighties. Same reason Casablanca and Citizen Kane suck - they’re soooo forties man. Give me only movies made within the last week. Everything else bites!
Hoho and all that. But it's pretty obvious to most people that of all the mid 80's classic films (if you accept Manhunter as part of that list), the Michael Mann film suffers more than most from the tackiness of the era.
About Last Night, another classic from those times, also 'goes MTV' at a few opportunities. But it suits the material down to the ground, even if you only see it for the first time now. Manhunter, on the other hand, feels very dated given its prestige and material.
If the viewer is unwilling to see past the surface stylings of a movie then they may as well be watching MTV. An inability from a certain audience also prevents them from watching black and white movies, subtitled movies, silent movies...the list goes on.
In fact I’d say that the best pictures are ones that speak loudly of the time they were made while still having relevance past the decade they were first seen. It’s only the fact that Manhunter hails from a time many can still remember at first hand that prevents it from being accorded the same stylistic forgiveness accorded other classic movies from preceding decades.
The point was that the 'style' of Manhunter, much like Miami Vice, is deemed 'tacky' to many people now. Mann doesn't appear to have grown out of Miami Vice at this point - even if the Thomas Harris source material was far superior.
I can't think of any other great 80's movies that 'suffer' from that style. Manhunter still retains its status, but it has aged far more than any other (classic) film from that time that I can think of.
And I certainly wouldn't compare people who think Manhunter has aged badly, to those who refuse to watch foreign or black and white films!
Silence of the Lambs was only five years later after all. And feels pretty timeless to me. Cetainly by comparison.
Can the cast of Red Dragon shape up? As a few have mentioned, Ed Norton seems like the biggest liability. Petersen pulled off the trick of talking to himself as the killer without looking like a prat. With his blond dye job (see Keeping The Faith), Norton looks like a prat to begin with - so it's an uphill struggle. Even if Fiennes looks potentially interesting.
I read The Red Dragon book after reading the silence of the lambs and I thought it was brilliant the best of the 3. Not sure about a few things with the film though and that is,The Director Brett Ratner, dont get me wrong i love his films 2 of my favourites are rush hour 1 and 2 but these are his only two big films and totally different style to The Red Dragon. the other point is the casting of Ralph Fiennes as Francis Dolarhyde I got the impression from the book that Dolarhyde was quite a big bloke wasnt the guy who played him in the eighties movie a good size two? But Fiennes is really thin unless hes been pumping some serious iron lately. I also agree I Don't think Norton can better Peterson's performance he didnt look to good in the trailer did he? But hopefully im proved wrong on all my points
Fiennes is an excellent, underated actor that should get more big profile offers, but Hollywood is dumb. He'll be great in this one, with the cast so good it can't really stink too bad, just like Insomnia!
Originally posted by jonathan.e
If the viewer is unwilling to see past the surface stylings of a movie then they may as well be watching MTV. An inability from a certain audience also prevents them from watching black and white movies, subtitled movies, silent movies...the list goes on.
Which is why Capra's It's A Wonderful Life and Ang Lee's Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon (and no, I have never watched it with the dubbed soundtrack) are in my top 10 favourite films. I have a love for Hong Kong and Japanese movies of which I particularly like films like Ring, Hard Boiled, Once Upon A Time In China etc.
So my disliking for the style of Manhunter does not mean I cannot bring myself to watch many different types of film. Do you normally tar people with the same brush because of one opinion?
I was around 14-15 when Miami Vice was on TV and I used to love it. When I see it on TV now, I cringe looking at the clothes being worn. It may have looked good at the time (or did it?), but it looks awful now. I also don't like the style of films like Wall Street (the braces, uurgh!) and Working Girl (the power hairstyles). That doesn't mean I don't like the films themselves.
I can't be bothered with this film, and find it a insult that it's even being made. Just as I was insulted that Insomnia (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0278504) got made recently.
Can't Hollywood come up with something original for once :mad:
At least they will be more faithful to the original material than say, house on haunted hill or the forthcoming wicker man remake. I don`t see why a remake is required of Red dragon, but at least the quality should be up there. I`m not against remakes per se, but I hate remakes where the new film bears no resemblence to the original material or where the remake is merely to cash in on the perceived popularity of the genre at any given moment in time.
Chris
Originally posted by ChrisAllenFiz
I`m not against remakes per se, but I hate remakes where the new film bears no resemblence to the original material or where the remake is merely to cash in on the perceived popularity of the genre at any given moment in time.
Why on earth do remakes have to be faithful to the original material? Many of the best remakes work precisely because they <U>aren't</U> faithful - they're by directors who have a strong enough artistic personality of their own to add an extra dimension to the material, thus justifying remaking it in the first place.
The last thing I want is for the <I>Wicker Man</I> remake to be especially faithful to the original - a specifically US spin on the subject (i.e. drawing on ancient religious rites originating from that side of the Atlantic) could be fascinating, but just transplanting specifically British (and Scottish) elements and shoehorning them into a US setting looks like a recipe for disaster.
As for <I>Red Dragon</I>, although a confirmed <I>Manhunter</I> fan I'm quite prepared to give it the benefit of the doubt for now - the source material and the cast are certainly strong enough, and it looks quite different stylistically.
Originally posted by Damonc
I agree with Mr Stanton that the book is definitely the best of the three. I feel that the film has aged due to the (again IMHO) Miami Vice look and feel that Mann carried into this film. It just encompasses everything that I dislike about the 80s.
Films don't date per se - Manhunter is set in a specific time period, Back to the Future, Bridge on the River Kwai, Lawrence of Arabia etcetc The stories are connected to a specific time, how can it be perceived as a dated film?
Manhunter is beautifully shot, very stylish. Red Dragon looks like 90s excess, too much of everything. I'll give it a chance, but Norton's performance in the footage I've seen is blown away away by Petersen's presence.
Originally posted by Michael Brooke
The last thing I want is for the <I>Wicker Man</I> remake to be especially faithful to the original - a specifically US spin on the subject (i.e. drawing on ancient religious rites originating from that side of the Atlantic) could be fascinating, but just transplanting specifically British (and Scottish) elements and shoehorning them into a US setting looks like a recipe for disaster.
Michael. If they want to make a film like the wicker man but actually quite different then DONT call it the wicker man. I wish someone would tell me why it has to be called the wicker man. It has nothing to do really with the original and only serves to confuse and annoy. To my mind it only deserves a possible (based on the wicker man) subtitle. The original story (and the wicker man idea itself) just doesn`t sit properly with an american setting, which means for me its just a cash in. I would love to see a movie as you describe above come out with its own title and stand on its own feet.
Chris
Originally posted by Panavision
Films don't date per se - Manhunter is set in a specific time period, Back to the Future, Bridge on the River Kwai, Lawrence of Arabia etcetc The stories are connected to a specific time, how can it be perceived as a dated film?
Manhunter is beautifully shot, very stylish. Red Dragon looks like 90s excess, too much of everything. I'll give it a chance, but Norton's performance in the footage I've seen is blown away away by Petersen's presence.
My point is that the films that you have mentioned have got style whereas I think Manhunter looks tacky. It may have been well shot, but the look of the film along with the clothes follows on too much from the style used in Miami Vice.
That was 80s fashion :) Each to their own.
Just saw this tonight. Anyone who’s pre-booked tickets: It’s not too late to get a refund.
Willl post a review tomorrow.
We're off to see Red Dragon as a Class (I study Film).
We've just recently been studying ManHunter, and it's a damn fine movie. There are certain aspects of it that have ages (the pink shorts that we see Will wearing in the final scene for example).
But the acting in Manhunter was fantastic, and certain scenes were very entertaining (the tiger scene for one was _very_ interesting...) and the use of mise-en-scene and the cinematography in the scene with Hannibal in his cell, makes it a great film to study.
I can't wait to see Red Dragon, it'll be interested to see what Mr. Ratner comes up with.
Originally posted by jonathan.e
Just saw this tonight. Anyone who’s pre-booked tickets: It’s not too late to get a refund.
Willl post a review tomorrow.
Well, I'm certainly not going to take notice of your review. You're earlier posts in this are pro-Manhunter, so I guess u had the knives out for Red Dragon long before u saw it. Am I right, or am I right?:D
Originally posted by nc
Well, I'm certainly not going to take notice of your review. You're earlier posts in this are pro-Manhunter, so I guess u had the knives out for Red Dragon long before u saw it. Am I right, or am I right?:D
Aww boo-hoo.
I like Manhunter but I also like SOL so I was perfectly prepared to give Red Dragon a fair shake.
Verdict tomorrow - You know you’ll read it nc :p
jonathon.e, since you've seen it could you possibly tell me have the changed the story to:-
Dolarhyde ends up trying to kill Graham's family, the trailer seemed to suggest this could be the case
If they have done that then I'll be mightily annoyed.
CLH, yes they have - and mightily lame it is too. Hope to have a full review up by the end of the day.
Looking forward to seeing the review m8.
Originally posted by jonathan.e
CLH, yes they have - and mightily lame it is too. Hope to have a full review up by the end of the day.
I suspected as much. How do they justify that?
i.e. did Dolarhyde get pictures of Graham's wife and children developed? And how does the weakling Norton kill him?
Originally posted by jonathan.e
CLH, yes they have - and mightily lame it is too. Hope to have a full review up by the end of the day.
The clock is ticking.............
I really enjoyed Manhunter. Not sure if i will enjoy Red Dragon though as ive never seen SOTL or Hannibal:eek:
Seeing as the films have been on a downward trend since the superlative Manhunter:
1) Manhunter
2) Silence of the Lambs
3) Hannibal
With Brett "Our jewelry is crap" Ratner at the helm - heaven help this film.
I adore Manhunter but I'm still looking forward to this one.
And another thing - THE MANHUNTER SOUNDTRACK KICKS ASS.
- although I seem to be in the minority about that
Where's the review? :)))
Dan
In the review forum :p
Originally posted by pure
Where's the review? :)))
Dan
ah-ha... thank you :)
Dan
Well lets hope its better than Ridely Scott's dreadful effort
It's looking good.
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Originally posted by Arch Stanton
Latest trailer for Red Dragon (http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/red_dragon/trailer2.html) is up on Apple.com
It's looking good.
But its not Manhunter so I'll doubt I'll bother with it :)
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That trailer looks pretty good. I hope with a cast like that it won't fail but you never know.
I liked Manhunter but IMHO it has aged a lot so I have high hopes for this one.
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Originally posted by Damonc
That trailer looks pretty good. I hope with a cast like that it won't fail but you never know.
I liked Manhunter but IMHO it has aged a lot so I have high hopes for this one.
No way MAN! Manhunter is still classic, got a feeling red Dragon will be *****.
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When people say Manhunter has aged a lot are they talking about the 80's feel to the film? If so I don't understand why that's a problem, thw story is set in the 80's & should have an 80's feel! If Red Dragon doesn't feel like it's set in the 80's (which the 1st trailer most certainly did not) then Ratner has cocked up big time.
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That trailer gives away a few plot points. No matter to most as we've seen Manhunter and some of us have read the book - but when will they learn?
:sad:
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Mr Stanton has never liked 'Manhunter' ( far too many reason's to list :) ) but the books the strongest of the three and the trailer certainly pushes the right buttons.
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I agree with Mr Stanton that the book is definitely the best of the three. I feel that the film has aged due to the (again IMHO) Miami Vice look and feel that Mann carried into this film. It just encompasses everything that I dislike about the 80s.
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Originally posted by Damonc
I liked Manhunter but IMHO it has aged a lot so I have high hopes for this one.
Yeah, it’s soooo eighties. Same reason Casablanca and Citizen Kane suck - they’re soooo forties man. Give me only movies made within the last week. Everything else bites!
:oh-hum:
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Originally posted by jonathan.e
Yeah, it’s soooo eighties. Same reason Casablanca and Citizen Kane suck - they’re soooo forties man. Give me only movies made within the last week. Everything else bites!
Yes but these films have a style about them that is timeless. I don't feel that Manhunter has that style. I'll say it again, it is just my humble opinion. I'm not asking you to agree with it. Your welcome to your own.
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Whilst I do feel that Manhunter has aged, especially due to that horrific 80's cheese music there's one thing I'm not sure about and that's if Edward Nortons performance can beat William L Petersons from Manhunter.
Petersons performance was fantastic in Manhunter and he played the role of a troubled detective/profiler brilliantly. I would also generally consider Peterson a better actor than Norton anyway - he was superb also in To Live And Die In LA, a criminally underrated film and he's great in CSI as well.
That's not to say I don't want to see Red Dragon, in fact I am quite keen to see it, and Norton could easily prove me wrong - it'll be interesting to see none the less :)
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Agree with Mr-Woo. Don't think Norton can better Peterson's performance especially after seeing the trailer for Red Dragon that I have seen, in which Norton looked absolutely awful. Also I don't think there is any way in the world that Tom Noonan's portrayl of Francis Dollarhyde could ever be bettered.
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It looks OK to me - and while I agree it'll have difficulty beating Manhunter, it certainly looks like a film worth watching. I still have some doubts over Ratner's ability - but if the script's good enough, maybe it'll bring out the best in him.
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Thoughts on the trailer -looks OK- great cast- but Brian Cox delievered the 'home phone number' better than Hopkins;)
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Well I'm a big Manhunter fan and I'll be watching this. I'm hoping for the best but expecting the worst - That way I'll not be disappointed and might even be pleasantly surprised :)
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Originally posted by jonathan.e
Yeah, it’s soooo eighties. Same reason Casablanca and Citizen Kane suck - they’re soooo forties man. Give me only movies made within the last week. Everything else bites!
Hoho and all that. But it's pretty obvious to most people that of all the mid 80's classic films (if you accept Manhunter as part of that list), the Michael Mann film suffers more than most from the tackiness of the era.
About Last Night, another classic from those times, also 'goes MTV' at a few opportunities. But it suits the material down to the ground, even if you only see it for the first time now. Manhunter, on the other hand, feels very dated given its prestige and material.
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If the viewer is unwilling to see past the surface stylings of a movie then they may as well be watching MTV. An inability from a certain audience also prevents them from watching black and white movies, subtitled movies, silent movies...the list goes on.
In fact I’d say that the best pictures are ones that speak loudly of the time they were made while still having relevance past the decade they were first seen. It’s only the fact that Manhunter hails from a time many can still remember at first hand that prevents it from being accorded the same stylistic forgiveness accorded other classic movies from preceding decades.
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The point was that the 'style' of Manhunter, much like Miami Vice, is deemed 'tacky' to many people now. Mann doesn't appear to have grown out of Miami Vice at this point - even if the Thomas Harris source material was far superior.
I can't think of any other great 80's movies that 'suffer' from that style. Manhunter still retains its status, but it has aged far more than any other (classic) film from that time that I can think of.
And I certainly wouldn't compare people who think Manhunter has aged badly, to those who refuse to watch foreign or black and white films!
Silence of the Lambs was only five years later after all. And feels pretty timeless to me. Cetainly by comparison.
Can the cast of Red Dragon shape up? As a few have mentioned, Ed Norton seems like the biggest liability. Petersen pulled off the trick of talking to himself as the killer without looking like a prat. With his blond dye job (see Keeping The Faith), Norton looks like a prat to begin with - so it's an uphill struggle. Even if Fiennes looks potentially interesting.
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I read The Red Dragon book after reading the silence of the lambs and I thought it was brilliant the best of the 3. Not sure about a few things with the film though and that is,The Director Brett Ratner, dont get me wrong i love his films 2 of my favourites are rush hour 1 and 2 but these are his only two big films and totally different style to The Red Dragon. the other point is the casting of Ralph Fiennes as Francis Dolarhyde I got the impression from the book that Dolarhyde was quite a big bloke wasnt the guy who played him in the eighties movie a good size two? But Fiennes is really thin unless hes been pumping some serious iron lately. I also agree I Don't think Norton can better Peterson's performance he didnt look to good in the trailer did he? But hopefully im proved wrong on all my points
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Fiennes is an excellent, underated actor that should get more big profile offers, but Hollywood is dumb. He'll be great in this one, with the cast so good it can't really stink too bad, just like Insomnia!
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Originally posted by jonathan.e
If the viewer is unwilling to see past the surface stylings of a movie then they may as well be watching MTV. An inability from a certain audience also prevents them from watching black and white movies, subtitled movies, silent movies...the list goes on.
Which is why Capra's It's A Wonderful Life and Ang Lee's Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon (and no, I have never watched it with the dubbed soundtrack) are in my top 10 favourite films. I have a love for Hong Kong and Japanese movies of which I particularly like films like Ring, Hard Boiled, Once Upon A Time In China etc.
So my disliking for the style of Manhunter does not mean I cannot bring myself to watch many different types of film. Do you normally tar people with the same brush because of one opinion?
I was around 14-15 when Miami Vice was on TV and I used to love it. When I see it on TV now, I cringe looking at the clothes being worn. It may have looked good at the time (or did it?), but it looks awful now. I also don't like the style of films like Wall Street (the braces, uurgh!) and Working Girl (the power hairstyles). That doesn't mean I don't like the films themselves.
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I can't be bothered with this film, and find it a insult that it's even being made. Just as I was insulted that Insomnia (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0278504) got made recently.
Can't Hollywood come up with something original for once :mad:
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At least they will be more faithful to the original material than say, house on haunted hill or the forthcoming wicker man remake. I don`t see why a remake is required of Red dragon, but at least the quality should be up there. I`m not against remakes per se, but I hate remakes where the new film bears no resemblence to the original material or where the remake is merely to cash in on the perceived popularity of the genre at any given moment in time.
Chris
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Originally posted by ChrisAllenFiz
I`m not against remakes per se, but I hate remakes where the new film bears no resemblence to the original material or where the remake is merely to cash in on the perceived popularity of the genre at any given moment in time.
Why on earth do remakes have to be faithful to the original material? Many of the best remakes work precisely because they <U>aren't</U> faithful - they're by directors who have a strong enough artistic personality of their own to add an extra dimension to the material, thus justifying remaking it in the first place.
The last thing I want is for the <I>Wicker Man</I> remake to be especially faithful to the original - a specifically US spin on the subject (i.e. drawing on ancient religious rites originating from that side of the Atlantic) could be fascinating, but just transplanting specifically British (and Scottish) elements and shoehorning them into a US setting looks like a recipe for disaster.
As for <I>Red Dragon</I>, although a confirmed <I>Manhunter</I> fan I'm quite prepared to give it the benefit of the doubt for now - the source material and the cast are certainly strong enough, and it looks quite different stylistically.
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Originally posted by Damonc
I agree with Mr Stanton that the book is definitely the best of the three. I feel that the film has aged due to the (again IMHO) Miami Vice look and feel that Mann carried into this film. It just encompasses everything that I dislike about the 80s.
Films don't date per se - Manhunter is set in a specific time period, Back to the Future, Bridge on the River Kwai, Lawrence of Arabia etcetc The stories are connected to a specific time, how can it be perceived as a dated film?
Manhunter is beautifully shot, very stylish. Red Dragon looks like 90s excess, too much of everything. I'll give it a chance, but Norton's performance in the footage I've seen is blown away away by Petersen's presence.
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Originally posted by Michael Brooke
The last thing I want is for the <I>Wicker Man</I> remake to be especially faithful to the original - a specifically US spin on the subject (i.e. drawing on ancient religious rites originating from that side of the Atlantic) could be fascinating, but just transplanting specifically British (and Scottish) elements and shoehorning them into a US setting looks like a recipe for disaster.
Michael. If they want to make a film like the wicker man but actually quite different then DONT call it the wicker man. I wish someone would tell me why it has to be called the wicker man. It has nothing to do really with the original and only serves to confuse and annoy. To my mind it only deserves a possible (based on the wicker man) subtitle. The original story (and the wicker man idea itself) just doesn`t sit properly with an american setting, which means for me its just a cash in. I would love to see a movie as you describe above come out with its own title and stand on its own feet.
Chris
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Originally posted by Panavision
Films don't date per se - Manhunter is set in a specific time period, Back to the Future, Bridge on the River Kwai, Lawrence of Arabia etcetc The stories are connected to a specific time, how can it be perceived as a dated film?
Manhunter is beautifully shot, very stylish. Red Dragon looks like 90s excess, too much of everything. I'll give it a chance, but Norton's performance in the footage I've seen is blown away away by Petersen's presence.
My point is that the films that you have mentioned have got style whereas I think Manhunter looks tacky. It may have been well shot, but the look of the film along with the clothes follows on too much from the style used in Miami Vice.
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That was 80s fashion :) Each to their own.
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Just saw this tonight. Anyone who’s pre-booked tickets: It’s not too late to get a refund.
Willl post a review tomorrow.
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We're off to see Red Dragon as a Class (I study Film).
We've just recently been studying ManHunter, and it's a damn fine movie. There are certain aspects of it that have ages (the pink shorts that we see Will wearing in the final scene for example).
But the acting in Manhunter was fantastic, and certain scenes were very entertaining (the tiger scene for one was _very_ interesting...) and the use of mise-en-scene and the cinematography in the scene with Hannibal in his cell, makes it a great film to study.
I can't wait to see Red Dragon, it'll be interested to see what Mr. Ratner comes up with.
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Originally posted by jonathan.e
Just saw this tonight. Anyone who’s pre-booked tickets: It’s not too late to get a refund.
Willl post a review tomorrow.
Well, I'm certainly not going to take notice of your review. You're earlier posts in this are pro-Manhunter, so I guess u had the knives out for Red Dragon long before u saw it. Am I right, or am I right?:D
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Originally posted by nc
Well, I'm certainly not going to take notice of your review. You're earlier posts in this are pro-Manhunter, so I guess u had the knives out for Red Dragon long before u saw it. Am I right, or am I right?:D
Aww boo-hoo.
I like Manhunter but I also like SOL so I was perfectly prepared to give Red Dragon a fair shake.
Verdict tomorrow - You know you’ll read it nc :p
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jonathon.e, since you've seen it could you possibly tell me have the changed the story to:-
Dolarhyde ends up trying to kill Graham's family, the trailer seemed to suggest this could be the case
If they have done that then I'll be mightily annoyed.
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CLH, yes they have - and mightily lame it is too. Hope to have a full review up by the end of the day.
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Looking forward to seeing the review m8.
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Originally posted by jonathan.e
CLH, yes they have - and mightily lame it is too. Hope to have a full review up by the end of the day.
I suspected as much. How do they justify that?
i.e. did Dolarhyde get pictures of Graham's wife and children developed? And how does the weakling Norton kill him?
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Originally posted by jonathan.e
CLH, yes they have - and mightily lame it is too. Hope to have a full review up by the end of the day.
The clock is ticking.............
I really enjoyed Manhunter. Not sure if i will enjoy Red Dragon though as ive never seen SOTL or Hannibal:eek:
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Seeing as the films have been on a downward trend since the superlative Manhunter:
1) Manhunter
2) Silence of the Lambs
3) Hannibal
With Brett "Our jewelry is crap" Ratner at the helm - heaven help this film.
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I adore Manhunter but I'm still looking forward to this one.
And another thing - THE MANHUNTER SOUNDTRACK KICKS ASS.
- although I seem to be in the minority about that
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Where's the review? :)))
Dan
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In the review forum :p
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Originally posted by pure
Where's the review? :)))
Dan
ah-ha... thank you :)
Dan
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Well lets hope its better than Ridely Scott's dreadful effort
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