Question:
I was wondering if someone can give me some help.
I am looking at a projector and was sold on an LCD setup (Panny AE100) and the picture looked pretty damn good.
Having popped into my local Sevenoaks they told me that I shouldnt be looking at LCD I should go for a DLP (namely the Sharp XV-Z90E). And that LCD was crapcompared to DLP.
I did get a demo of some 6K DLP PJ they had and he said although it clearly was better than the Sharp there wasnt much in it. What I did notice was that the DLP picture was superb, really clear and vivid colours.
Having'd the Panny AE100 I thought the picture was good but no where near as clear and sharp.
Now taking price out of it for the time being (the Sharp is more than twice the cost of the Panny!!) is this true or was he just leading me up the garden path???
Also would it make any difference if I looked at a more expensive LCD?
Thanks!
DLP is not without its drawbacks. Consumer DLPs use a single chips which is used to project first red, then green, then blue portions of the image. This means that some people see a lot of rainbow-type artifacts. Personally I don't see them very much but i don't want to buy a PJ that would have mates complaining about rainbows (and often headaches, apparently.) The latest machines run a 6-segment, six-times colour wheel - i.e. effectively 12x - which allegedly eliminates this problem - at a price. What DLP does give you is better contrast than LCD and no screendoor.
More expensive LCDs will have less obvious screendoor but contrast is still limited. I have an LCD because I cannot justify the (huge) extra cost of a good DLP and I am happy with it - despite its flaws. However, in a few years I suspect that the price of DLP will have dropped enough - and the colour wheel speeds will be high enough - that it will be the technology of choice the the home cinema enthusiast. In the meantime, 'budget' LCDs - Sanyo PLV-Z1, Panny AE300, Sony HS-10, etc. - represent good value for money and a great way to get the cinema feel in your own home.
HTH,
_
Thanks for the advice!!
I am also struggling to justify an extra 1300 for a DLP even though it is very impressive.
Would you say that there is a massive difference in quality (as in LCD is barely watchable in comparison)?
Is something like the Sanyo PLV-Z1 going to be way better than the Panny AE100? The Panny can be had for 600 as opposed to 1000 for the Sanyo or 1600 for the AE300.
It strikes me that it isnt but interested to know your thoughts.
I went into the shop for a Z1, but they managed to sell me a Z90E.
There's a new one coming out soon, so you should be able to get the Z90E for £1800-£1900. Don't pay the list price of £2400.
I've got the Sanyo Z1 - m8 it's the mutts nutts imho. :clap:
It is way better to watch than DLP for ME as I saw more rainbows than found during a wet day in rainbow land during the national rainbow contests.
Twas truely horrible. Piccy was good, sure, but so what if you can't stand watching it.....
anyway, get a good demo of the new LCD's and DLP's back to back if you can and see if you are affected by the rainbows or if you think the price difference is worth it.... for me it was an easy decision, I loved the Z1, it beats the panny 100 for my money, but that's all up to the individual.
cheers
Mikey:thumbs:
I previously used a Davis DLP projector, and not only was the colour wheel visually annoying (it was fine if you kept your head still, but glancing from one side of the screen to the other was atrocious) it was also acoustically damaging.
PAL stuff was fine, and the picture was good (nowhere near CRT contrasts, but good) but on NTSC signals you could hear the colour wheel rev up (presumably to 60hz from 50?). Given that she needed good ventilation it was pretty hard to damp the sound.
I sold it.
Originally posted by A²
I previously used a Davis DLP projector, and not only was the colour wheel visually annoying (it was fine if you kept your head still, but glancing from one side of the screen to the other was atrocious) it was also acoustically damaging.
PAL stuff was fine, and the picture was good (nowhere near CRT contrasts, but good) but on NTSC signals you could hear the colour wheel rev up (presumably to 60hz from 50?). Given that she needed good ventilation it was pretty hard to damp the sound.
I sold it.
What do you have now?
the ubiquitous Toshiba RPTV monolith a like 43 incher.
Ok, the pics not as big as it was with the Davis (6' +) but atleast I can watch Eyes Wide Shut without getting smacked for so obviously looking at the pink bits.
With the new set I can turn my eyes. With the Davis in the lounge you had to turn your head. With the Davis in the garden, you could get up and walk over to the bit you were interested in ;)
I am looking at a projector and was sold on an LCD setup (Panny AE100) and the picture looked pretty damn good.
Having popped into my local Sevenoaks they told me that I shouldnt be looking at LCD I should go for a DLP (namely the Sharp XV-Z90E). And that LCD was crapcompared to DLP.
I did get a demo of some 6K DLP PJ they had and he said although it clearly was better than the Sharp there wasnt much in it. What I did notice was that the DLP picture was superb, really clear and vivid colours.
Having'd the Panny AE100 I thought the picture was good but no where near as clear and sharp.
Now taking price out of it for the time being (the Sharp is more than twice the cost of the Panny!!) is this true or was he just leading me up the garden path???
Also would it make any difference if I looked at a more expensive LCD?
Thanks!
Answers:
DLP is not without its drawbacks. Consumer DLPs use a single chips which is used to project first red, then green, then blue portions of the image. This means that some people see a lot of rainbow-type artifacts. Personally I don't see them very much but i don't want to buy a PJ that would have mates complaining about rainbows (and often headaches, apparently.) The latest machines run a 6-segment, six-times colour wheel - i.e. effectively 12x - which allegedly eliminates this problem - at a price. What DLP does give you is better contrast than LCD and no screendoor.
More expensive LCDs will have less obvious screendoor but contrast is still limited. I have an LCD because I cannot justify the (huge) extra cost of a good DLP and I am happy with it - despite its flaws. However, in a few years I suspect that the price of DLP will have dropped enough - and the colour wheel speeds will be high enough - that it will be the technology of choice the the home cinema enthusiast. In the meantime, 'budget' LCDs - Sanyo PLV-Z1, Panny AE300, Sony HS-10, etc. - represent good value for money and a great way to get the cinema feel in your own home.
HTH,
_
Answers:
Thanks for the advice!!
I am also struggling to justify an extra 1300 for a DLP even though it is very impressive.
Would you say that there is a massive difference in quality (as in LCD is barely watchable in comparison)?
Is something like the Sanyo PLV-Z1 going to be way better than the Panny AE100? The Panny can be had for 600 as opposed to 1000 for the Sanyo or 1600 for the AE300.
It strikes me that it isnt but interested to know your thoughts.
Answers:
I went into the shop for a Z1, but they managed to sell me a Z90E.
There's a new one coming out soon, so you should be able to get the Z90E for £1800-£1900. Don't pay the list price of £2400.
Answers:
I've got the Sanyo Z1 - m8 it's the mutts nutts imho. :clap:
It is way better to watch than DLP for ME as I saw more rainbows than found during a wet day in rainbow land during the national rainbow contests.
Twas truely horrible. Piccy was good, sure, but so what if you can't stand watching it.....
anyway, get a good demo of the new LCD's and DLP's back to back if you can and see if you are affected by the rainbows or if you think the price difference is worth it.... for me it was an easy decision, I loved the Z1, it beats the panny 100 for my money, but that's all up to the individual.
cheers
Mikey:thumbs:
Answers:
I previously used a Davis DLP projector, and not only was the colour wheel visually annoying (it was fine if you kept your head still, but glancing from one side of the screen to the other was atrocious) it was also acoustically damaging.
PAL stuff was fine, and the picture was good (nowhere near CRT contrasts, but good) but on NTSC signals you could hear the colour wheel rev up (presumably to 60hz from 50?). Given that she needed good ventilation it was pretty hard to damp the sound.
I sold it.
Answers:
Originally posted by A²
I previously used a Davis DLP projector, and not only was the colour wheel visually annoying (it was fine if you kept your head still, but glancing from one side of the screen to the other was atrocious) it was also acoustically damaging.
PAL stuff was fine, and the picture was good (nowhere near CRT contrasts, but good) but on NTSC signals you could hear the colour wheel rev up (presumably to 60hz from 50?). Given that she needed good ventilation it was pretty hard to damp the sound.
I sold it.
What do you have now?
Answers:
the ubiquitous Toshiba RPTV monolith a like 43 incher.
Ok, the pics not as big as it was with the Davis (6' +) but atleast I can watch Eyes Wide Shut without getting smacked for so obviously looking at the pink bits.
With the new set I can turn my eyes. With the Davis in the lounge you had to turn your head. With the Davis in the garden, you could get up and walk over to the bit you were interested in ;)
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