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I'm in the market for a set of speakers/sub package and these seem to fit the bill nicely. Before I go trapsing around trying to find somewhere that demonstrates these, does anyone have any opinions of them? I've seen loads of stuff on them over on AVForums and several reviews, but was wondering if anyone here can offer some comments? I initially looked at some Kef Eggs, but don't mind paying the additional expenditure if they are worth it as I intend to keep this purchase for several years.
Don't be mentioning those B&W VM1's though, as they look like something you'd scrub your back in the bath with. :gag:
Thanks in advance :)
I had a Demo at Seven oaks in manchester, they sounded great but didnt have the volume/poke/punch/ that bit of oomph, if you know what i mean, it sounded as if there was something missing. great if you dont have much space though and come in some daft colours. i only need 2 for rears, so im going for kef eggs as the only speakers that come close to matching them for quality is the VM1's which are minging :gag: and kind of defeat the onject of going for tiny speakers. i dont have room for the wharfdale evolutions ive got now, you can have them for the right price :thumbs:
How much where the evo's and how much are you after for them lee?
splobs did you look at the jm labs sib n cub set or not?
Splobber, Urban Tiger and I recently did a major egg/ball comparison and to our ears the balls sounded too bright and thin. I know this flies in the face of all the hysteria on the av forums and elsewhere, but I've heard the balls on Urban's Cyrus/Tag/Arcam system and my own more humble Arcam/Denon and, impressive though the balls are (they really are!) the eggs at twice the size just allow that bit more fullness to the sound. But you really must listen for yourself. If you don't mind a brighter sound then the balls might be the ones for you.
Originally posted by dtsrules
How much where the evo's and how much are you after for them lee?
splobs did you look at the jm labs sib n cub set or not?
They where £250 each about 2 months ago, and i dont have room for them so they havent been used, theyr mint so im after £400 for the pair, but if your interested i can deliver and you can have a listen on your system before purchasing :thumbs:
Originally posted by richard67
the eggs at twice the size just allow that bit more fullness to the sound.
I was under the impression that the KHT2005's are not all that when it comes around to 2 channel audio reproduction and this is where the balls come into their element? I would like to get a set that can handle music well as my current set up is a bit naff when it comes round to this.
I'll try and get a demo of the two over the next week or so but there's no specialist shops near me that do either of these speaker packages as far as I'm aware. :(
I've heard that the problem with the Gallo balls is simply that the Gallo subwoofer is not up to much, but I haven't had a chance to audition them for myself. I'm actually interested in trying a Gallo Due as a centre channel speaker - any views?
I was interested in the Gallo Micro Balls, but the A'Diva [a 5" ball] seems to be a better choice. OK, they are more expensive, but they do seem worth an audition.
Boink!
Splobber, my two sessions with the balls and eggs where mainly (90% at least) spent listening critically to music in plain ol' stereo. Neither session involved the Gallo sub: Urban has a REL Q100e and I have a REL Q50. You can't fault the balls for detail and voices are eerily natural, but the overall tone errs too far on the bright side for me. I don't understand why people say the eggs aren't musical. What does that mean? They sound perfectly musical to me. Maybe it comes down to preferred listening levels: I certainly don't play movies or music very loud and at normal volume the eggs sound great. Since I only have a pair of eggs at the mo, I'm very interested to read the first reviews of the Mk II egg which are out this month. Could be a significant improvement which means my current pair will end up as rears when I get another three. You never know, the egg might leapfrog over the balls and VM1s in the next couple of weeks as the sub/sat system of choice...
To my ear the Kefs lack midrange clarity when things get busy. If the Gallos sound bright it could be because they havn't been run in properly. The Micro's I auditioned were 2/3rds run in against a set of well run in Kef Eggs (original versions). The Gallo sub sounded fine to me but it did need a bit of tweaking at setup as initially I think the demo boys had the crossover too high.
I'm saving with an eye to the A'Divas and if I can't hear a marked difference over the Micro's i'll go for them.
As my setup has been mentioned a couple of times, I thought I would add my comments.
1) The Gallo Ball owner that came to the test admitted his balls were inferior to the Eggs. That, to me, says alot on its own.
2) The overall concensus that you can't get a big sound from a small box (or ball) is true.
3) When playing the same piece of music, the balls would play parts of the music that were almost inaudible on the balls. If this sound was played by the sub, which I know is the reply I'd get, than the sub sound would be directional which defeats the point.
I can only say it as I see it, but I thought the Balls were just a glorified tinny tweeter that I couldn't live with. I honestly apologise to the Ball owners as theres nothing worse than someone slating your kit, but remembering the What Hifi review which I immediately dismissed as the normal WHF garbage, now I believe they were correct in their assessment.
If anyone wants to repeat the test and have an evening of friendly fun comparing speakers, LMK. Not sure anyones that brave though ;)
I'm another who has demoed the Gallo Micros and was hugely disappointed - I consider them to be massively overpriced for what they are and these particular Micros had been well run-in for the previous 2 months at a Hampshire dealer. I'm aware of the level of acclaim for them over on the AV Forums, but I wonder just how much of that is due to the amount of members who bought them from Uncle Eric in the power buy. Persoanlly, when a dealer starts hawking kit in forums under the umbrella of "unbiased reviews" and then runs a power-buy I get suspicious. These are the same folk who claim the REL subs to be mostly useless remember, despite all the evidence to the contrary - once again they appear to have followed the Pied Piper of Uncle Eric and bought Velodyne's en masse. I am, and remain, highly suspicious of his ultimate motives.
I went for B&W's VM1's in the end. I realise that they aren't as discreet as some, but my main priority was wall-mounted sound quality rather than size per se. Some love the looks, some don't - different strokes and all that....the sound, however, is stunning. Partnered with a Marantz SR7200 and REL Q150 they are truly musical and wonderful with AV work.
Highly recommended.
The KEF's are also very fine speakers - but the best thing to do with these (as with the VM1's) is to ditch the standard sub and spend the extra required for a decent sub. This elevates their performance to another level entirely.
Originally posted by richard67
Since I only have a pair of eggs at the mo, I'm very interested to read the first reviews of the Mk II egg which are out this month.
I thought it was only the sub which was getting replaced with an updated model? If the speakers are being uprated then I'll hold on for a few more weeks.
Thanks for the replies so far guys, they are most helpful. :) I'm leaning towards the eggs atm as I don't use my system all that much and can't convince myself to fork out the extra for the Gallos (and having to deal with a nagging wife afterwards) :gag:
Now the question remains - do I buy the new Kef KHT2005MkII package (complete with the new improved sub) or do I shell out more dosh for a Rel Q150 as a separate item? Or are there other alternatives that are worth looking at? Such as the Velodyne models? The only thing that concerns me about going for the REL is my boy poking Cadbury's Fingers into the woofer. :suspect:
More comments are graciously accepted. :D
Welcome back btw, Radiohead. :)
Apart from the Kefs, any other recommendations for compact wall-mounted speakers?
Originally posted by splobber
Now the question remains - do I buy the new Kef KHT2005MkII package (complete with the new improved sub) or do I shell out more dosh for a Rel Q150 as a separate item? Or are there other alternatives that are worth looking at? Such as the Velodyne models? The only thing that concerns me about going for the REL is my boy poking Cadbury's Fingers into the woofer. :suspect:
I think with a sub/sat system, the sub is massively important.
As an alternative to the Q150, I'll be selling my Q100e later this week. Considered by many to be better than the Q150, these come up regularly in the classifieds for £200-£250 and make an excellent bargain.
Have you thought 2nd hand?
Ha ha, subtle as an air raid Urban Tiger. ;)
I have the Eggs (5.1) and am mighty pleased. I use them to listen to stereo as well as multi channel and at all volumes they are just fine for me. I demo'd a range of options during the decision-making process but admittedly not the Balls.
Interested to read Radiohead's comments, as I am also running from a Marantz SR7200. The KEF sub is okay but it's my first one, and I have read in a number of places (and now here again!) that it's best to replace it with a REL for added oomph. Couldn't afford it at the time but it is certainly something I would like to do soon-ish.
Now how to persuade the missus? :help:
Originally posted by splobber
I thought it was only the sub which was getting replaced with an updated model? If the speakers are being uprated then I'll hold on for a few more weeks.
Thanks for the replies so far guys, they are most helpful. :) I'm leaning towards the eggs atm as I don't use my system all that much and can't convince myself to fork out the extra for the Gallos (and having to deal with a nagging wife afterwards) :gag:
Now the question remains - do I buy the new Kef KHT2005MkII package (complete with the new improved sub) or do I shell out more dosh for a Rel Q150 as a separate item? Or are there other alternatives that are worth looking at? Such as the Velodyne models? The only thing that concerns me about going for the REL is my boy poking Cadbury's Fingers into the woofer. :suspect:
More comments are graciously accepted. :D
Welcome back btw, Radiohead. :)
Splobber, first you don't exist so what's the point buying anything.
Second, why not buy 5 uprated Kef's singly for say £500 (or perhaps cheaper if you can get them) and the REL sub in the classifieds if he sells it.
Sounds like best of all worlds to me.
I'm having this prob at the moment. I have the Eggs and Denon 3802 and I'm either going to get the new eggs or a 3803 (although prob both eventually).
Originally posted by CLH
I'm having this prob at the moment. I have the Eggs and Denon 3802 and I'm either going to get the new eggs or a 3803 (although prob both eventually).
Sideways move IMO - the amp might give you more decoding options, but I wouldn't expect the Mk2 Eggs to be a massive leap over the Mk1's.
Originally posted by Radiohead
Sideways move IMO - the amp might give you more decoding options, but I wouldn't expect the Mk2 Eggs to be a massive leap over the Mk1's.
You might be right I guess. The 3802 is awesome. What I really need is someone to tell me HOW much better the 3803 is.
Not enough for the cost to change I would say.....
:)
Originally posted by Radiohead
Not enough for the cost to change I would say.....
:)
£250??
Originally posted by cm-9
I've heard that the problem with the Gallo balls is simply that the Gallo subwoofer is not up to much,
The Gallo subwoofer is far better than the KEF Egg subwoofer and whoever told you that it wasn't up to much has probably never listened to one
Originally posted by Radiohead
Personally, when a dealer starts hawking kit in forums under the umbrella of "unbiased reviews" and then runs a power-buy I get suspicious. These are the same folk who claim the REL subs to be mostly useless remember, despite all the evidence to the contrary - once again they appear to have followed the Pied Piper of Uncle Eric and bought Velodyne's en masse. I am, and remain, highly suspicious of his ultimate motives.
uncle eric has been a member of AV Forums for quite a while as an enthusiast and only started selling equipment comparatively recently. It was someone else who uncovered the Gallo speakers and enthused over them so much that uncle eric tried them for himself and started to sell them. Many of the people who have bought them via the Power Buys did so after a demo. Likewise eric has said that REL stopped making decent Q range subwoofers when they dumped the Q100 in favour of the Q150 and that was long before he started selling Velodynes. He even had a pair of Q100 in his own home cinema.
It doesn't matter what speakers are discussed there will always be as many hate them as love them. Personally I love the little Gallo Micros and would recommend anyone that likes the look of them to seek out a demo and decide for yourself.
Originally posted by ivj
Likewise eric has said that REL stopped making decent Q range subwoofers when they dumped the Q100 in favour of the Q150
Well, if he said it then it must be true.
They're a funny old lot over at the AVForums...
One minute they're saying there's no substitute for big enclosures - one of the reasons prolly the Quake & Q150 gets caned - then suddenly Velodyne bring out a 10" cube with an 8" driver (currently on power buy) and surprise, surprise that knocks the socks off everything..
:confused:
:D
..and don't get me started on that utterly hideous Velodyne with the 'V' grille.. :gag: Has a face only an uncle could love :lol:
Not knocking UE's knowledge, but he does seem to get carried away sometimes, esp. over the WHF Gallo review..
I notice no-one over there is caning WHF over the Rotel pre/pro/power group test winner result beating the Tag & Arcam setups, to boot.. :suspect:
ROTEL RULE!! :clap:
btw - I've got the REL Q100 and it's bloody fantastic.. :thumbs:
Originally posted by Bapapapa
They're a funny old lot over at the AVForums...
One minute they're saying there's no substitute for big enclosures - one of the reasons prolly the Quake & Q150 gets caned - then suddenly Velodyne bring out a 10" cube with an 8" driver (currently on power buy) and surprise, surprise that knocks the socks off everything..
Exactly my point - in one thread I did ask Eric if all the criticisms levelled at REL's due to their compact size could now be levelled at Velodyne - it went unanswered. I prefer to take my advice from a dealer that I know and trust, not one punting stuff out on a forum.
The now acclaimed (before UE had even heard it I believe) Velodyne VX-10 (which I agree, is utterly hideous) is available for under $160 in the US - that hardly smacks of high-quality componentry.
Needless to say, when the Q150E won the Sub of the Year award in the current issue of the excellent magazine Home Cinema Choice, the only answer, according to many on the AV Forums, was that the magazine was taking a back-hander from REL in the form of advertising. This leaves me deeply suspicious of the impartiality of some members over there - I wonder if they'd have said the same had a Velodyne won? I suspect not....
Originally posted by Radiohead
Well, if he said it then it must be true.
:rolleyes: Watch out, that's UE's best mate you're messing with..
Ian J & Uncle E sitting in a tree.. :luv:
:nuts:
btw - Radiohead, nice post count.. :|
Originally posted by Bapapapa
btw - Radiohead, nice post count.. :|
:|
:luv:
Originally posted by Urban Tiger
As an alternative to the Q150, I'll be selling my Q100e later this week. Considered by many to be better than the Q150, these come up regularly in the classifieds for £200-£250 and make an excellent bargain.
Have you thought 2nd hand?
Looks like you've thought about it. :)
I may be interested once I finally place an order for the speaker package and if the price is right. :D
Originally posted by CLH
Splobber, first you don't exist so what's the point buying anything.
Hmmmm....I didn't really think about that tbh. :suspect: :D
Where are you getting your Denon 3903 cheaply from then? (I saw your post in the classifieds). I may be tempted to go all out and buy a new receiver now.... :dork:
Originally posted by splobber
Looks like you've thought about it. :)
I may be interested once I finally place an order for the speaker package and if the price is right. :D
TBH, this wasn't really a punt to sell, although reading it, it certainly sounds like it ;). I sold my mates Q100e a couple of weeks ago on the AV Forums for £235, it sold very very quickly.
As for 2nd hand gear, almost all my stuff is 2nd hand! Heres a list of stuff I own split new and 2nd hand.
2nd Hand
Cyrus CD7Q
Pioneer 757 Ai
Arcam FMJ 3 channel power amp
Arcam FMJ 2 channel power amp
B&W CDM 7NT
B&W LCR60 s3
REL Q100e
New
Tag McLaren AV32R bp192
B&W 600 s3 rears
Without buying 2nd hand, I wouldn't have half the stuff I own :thumbs:
And most of my stuff is second hand from Urban!
Originally posted by splobber
Welcome back btw, Radiohead. :)
:thumbs:
Don't be mentioning those B&W VM1's though, as they look like something you'd scrub your back in the bath with. :gag:
Thanks in advance :)
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I had a Demo at Seven oaks in manchester, they sounded great but didnt have the volume/poke/punch/ that bit of oomph, if you know what i mean, it sounded as if there was something missing. great if you dont have much space though and come in some daft colours. i only need 2 for rears, so im going for kef eggs as the only speakers that come close to matching them for quality is the VM1's which are minging :gag: and kind of defeat the onject of going for tiny speakers. i dont have room for the wharfdale evolutions ive got now, you can have them for the right price :thumbs:
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How much where the evo's and how much are you after for them lee?
splobs did you look at the jm labs sib n cub set or not?
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Splobber, Urban Tiger and I recently did a major egg/ball comparison and to our ears the balls sounded too bright and thin. I know this flies in the face of all the hysteria on the av forums and elsewhere, but I've heard the balls on Urban's Cyrus/Tag/Arcam system and my own more humble Arcam/Denon and, impressive though the balls are (they really are!) the eggs at twice the size just allow that bit more fullness to the sound. But you really must listen for yourself. If you don't mind a brighter sound then the balls might be the ones for you.
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Originally posted by dtsrules
How much where the evo's and how much are you after for them lee?
splobs did you look at the jm labs sib n cub set or not?
They where £250 each about 2 months ago, and i dont have room for them so they havent been used, theyr mint so im after £400 for the pair, but if your interested i can deliver and you can have a listen on your system before purchasing :thumbs:
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Originally posted by richard67
the eggs at twice the size just allow that bit more fullness to the sound.
I was under the impression that the KHT2005's are not all that when it comes around to 2 channel audio reproduction and this is where the balls come into their element? I would like to get a set that can handle music well as my current set up is a bit naff when it comes round to this.
I'll try and get a demo of the two over the next week or so but there's no specialist shops near me that do either of these speaker packages as far as I'm aware. :(
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I've heard that the problem with the Gallo balls is simply that the Gallo subwoofer is not up to much, but I haven't had a chance to audition them for myself. I'm actually interested in trying a Gallo Due as a centre channel speaker - any views?
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I was interested in the Gallo Micro Balls, but the A'Diva [a 5" ball] seems to be a better choice. OK, they are more expensive, but they do seem worth an audition.
Boink!
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Splobber, my two sessions with the balls and eggs where mainly (90% at least) spent listening critically to music in plain ol' stereo. Neither session involved the Gallo sub: Urban has a REL Q100e and I have a REL Q50. You can't fault the balls for detail and voices are eerily natural, but the overall tone errs too far on the bright side for me. I don't understand why people say the eggs aren't musical. What does that mean? They sound perfectly musical to me. Maybe it comes down to preferred listening levels: I certainly don't play movies or music very loud and at normal volume the eggs sound great. Since I only have a pair of eggs at the mo, I'm very interested to read the first reviews of the Mk II egg which are out this month. Could be a significant improvement which means my current pair will end up as rears when I get another three. You never know, the egg might leapfrog over the balls and VM1s in the next couple of weeks as the sub/sat system of choice...
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To my ear the Kefs lack midrange clarity when things get busy. If the Gallos sound bright it could be because they havn't been run in properly. The Micro's I auditioned were 2/3rds run in against a set of well run in Kef Eggs (original versions). The Gallo sub sounded fine to me but it did need a bit of tweaking at setup as initially I think the demo boys had the crossover too high.
I'm saving with an eye to the A'Divas and if I can't hear a marked difference over the Micro's i'll go for them.
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As my setup has been mentioned a couple of times, I thought I would add my comments.
1) The Gallo Ball owner that came to the test admitted his balls were inferior to the Eggs. That, to me, says alot on its own.
2) The overall concensus that you can't get a big sound from a small box (or ball) is true.
3) When playing the same piece of music, the balls would play parts of the music that were almost inaudible on the balls. If this sound was played by the sub, which I know is the reply I'd get, than the sub sound would be directional which defeats the point.
I can only say it as I see it, but I thought the Balls were just a glorified tinny tweeter that I couldn't live with. I honestly apologise to the Ball owners as theres nothing worse than someone slating your kit, but remembering the What Hifi review which I immediately dismissed as the normal WHF garbage, now I believe they were correct in their assessment.
If anyone wants to repeat the test and have an evening of friendly fun comparing speakers, LMK. Not sure anyones that brave though ;)
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I'm another who has demoed the Gallo Micros and was hugely disappointed - I consider them to be massively overpriced for what they are and these particular Micros had been well run-in for the previous 2 months at a Hampshire dealer. I'm aware of the level of acclaim for them over on the AV Forums, but I wonder just how much of that is due to the amount of members who bought them from Uncle Eric in the power buy. Persoanlly, when a dealer starts hawking kit in forums under the umbrella of "unbiased reviews" and then runs a power-buy I get suspicious. These are the same folk who claim the REL subs to be mostly useless remember, despite all the evidence to the contrary - once again they appear to have followed the Pied Piper of Uncle Eric and bought Velodyne's en masse. I am, and remain, highly suspicious of his ultimate motives.
I went for B&W's VM1's in the end. I realise that they aren't as discreet as some, but my main priority was wall-mounted sound quality rather than size per se. Some love the looks, some don't - different strokes and all that....the sound, however, is stunning. Partnered with a Marantz SR7200 and REL Q150 they are truly musical and wonderful with AV work.
Highly recommended.
The KEF's are also very fine speakers - but the best thing to do with these (as with the VM1's) is to ditch the standard sub and spend the extra required for a decent sub. This elevates their performance to another level entirely.
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Originally posted by richard67
Since I only have a pair of eggs at the mo, I'm very interested to read the first reviews of the Mk II egg which are out this month.
I thought it was only the sub which was getting replaced with an updated model? If the speakers are being uprated then I'll hold on for a few more weeks.
Thanks for the replies so far guys, they are most helpful. :) I'm leaning towards the eggs atm as I don't use my system all that much and can't convince myself to fork out the extra for the Gallos (and having to deal with a nagging wife afterwards) :gag:
Now the question remains - do I buy the new Kef KHT2005MkII package (complete with the new improved sub) or do I shell out more dosh for a Rel Q150 as a separate item? Or are there other alternatives that are worth looking at? Such as the Velodyne models? The only thing that concerns me about going for the REL is my boy poking Cadbury's Fingers into the woofer. :suspect:
More comments are graciously accepted. :D
Welcome back btw, Radiohead. :)
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Apart from the Kefs, any other recommendations for compact wall-mounted speakers?
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Originally posted by splobber
Now the question remains - do I buy the new Kef KHT2005MkII package (complete with the new improved sub) or do I shell out more dosh for a Rel Q150 as a separate item? Or are there other alternatives that are worth looking at? Such as the Velodyne models? The only thing that concerns me about going for the REL is my boy poking Cadbury's Fingers into the woofer. :suspect:
I think with a sub/sat system, the sub is massively important.
As an alternative to the Q150, I'll be selling my Q100e later this week. Considered by many to be better than the Q150, these come up regularly in the classifieds for £200-£250 and make an excellent bargain.
Have you thought 2nd hand?
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Ha ha, subtle as an air raid Urban Tiger. ;)
I have the Eggs (5.1) and am mighty pleased. I use them to listen to stereo as well as multi channel and at all volumes they are just fine for me. I demo'd a range of options during the decision-making process but admittedly not the Balls.
Interested to read Radiohead's comments, as I am also running from a Marantz SR7200. The KEF sub is okay but it's my first one, and I have read in a number of places (and now here again!) that it's best to replace it with a REL for added oomph. Couldn't afford it at the time but it is certainly something I would like to do soon-ish.
Now how to persuade the missus? :help:
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Originally posted by splobber
I thought it was only the sub which was getting replaced with an updated model? If the speakers are being uprated then I'll hold on for a few more weeks.
Thanks for the replies so far guys, they are most helpful. :) I'm leaning towards the eggs atm as I don't use my system all that much and can't convince myself to fork out the extra for the Gallos (and having to deal with a nagging wife afterwards) :gag:
Now the question remains - do I buy the new Kef KHT2005MkII package (complete with the new improved sub) or do I shell out more dosh for a Rel Q150 as a separate item? Or are there other alternatives that are worth looking at? Such as the Velodyne models? The only thing that concerns me about going for the REL is my boy poking Cadbury's Fingers into the woofer. :suspect:
More comments are graciously accepted. :D
Welcome back btw, Radiohead. :)
Splobber, first you don't exist so what's the point buying anything.
Second, why not buy 5 uprated Kef's singly for say £500 (or perhaps cheaper if you can get them) and the REL sub in the classifieds if he sells it.
Sounds like best of all worlds to me.
I'm having this prob at the moment. I have the Eggs and Denon 3802 and I'm either going to get the new eggs or a 3803 (although prob both eventually).
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Originally posted by CLH
I'm having this prob at the moment. I have the Eggs and Denon 3802 and I'm either going to get the new eggs or a 3803 (although prob both eventually).
Sideways move IMO - the amp might give you more decoding options, but I wouldn't expect the Mk2 Eggs to be a massive leap over the Mk1's.
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Originally posted by Radiohead
Sideways move IMO - the amp might give you more decoding options, but I wouldn't expect the Mk2 Eggs to be a massive leap over the Mk1's.
You might be right I guess. The 3802 is awesome. What I really need is someone to tell me HOW much better the 3803 is.
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Not enough for the cost to change I would say.....
:)
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Originally posted by Radiohead
Not enough for the cost to change I would say.....
:)
£250??
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Originally posted by cm-9
I've heard that the problem with the Gallo balls is simply that the Gallo subwoofer is not up to much,
The Gallo subwoofer is far better than the KEF Egg subwoofer and whoever told you that it wasn't up to much has probably never listened to one
Originally posted by Radiohead
Personally, when a dealer starts hawking kit in forums under the umbrella of "unbiased reviews" and then runs a power-buy I get suspicious. These are the same folk who claim the REL subs to be mostly useless remember, despite all the evidence to the contrary - once again they appear to have followed the Pied Piper of Uncle Eric and bought Velodyne's en masse. I am, and remain, highly suspicious of his ultimate motives.
uncle eric has been a member of AV Forums for quite a while as an enthusiast and only started selling equipment comparatively recently. It was someone else who uncovered the Gallo speakers and enthused over them so much that uncle eric tried them for himself and started to sell them. Many of the people who have bought them via the Power Buys did so after a demo. Likewise eric has said that REL stopped making decent Q range subwoofers when they dumped the Q100 in favour of the Q150 and that was long before he started selling Velodynes. He even had a pair of Q100 in his own home cinema.
It doesn't matter what speakers are discussed there will always be as many hate them as love them. Personally I love the little Gallo Micros and would recommend anyone that likes the look of them to seek out a demo and decide for yourself.
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Originally posted by ivj
Likewise eric has said that REL stopped making decent Q range subwoofers when they dumped the Q100 in favour of the Q150
Well, if he said it then it must be true.
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They're a funny old lot over at the AVForums...
One minute they're saying there's no substitute for big enclosures - one of the reasons prolly the Quake & Q150 gets caned - then suddenly Velodyne bring out a 10" cube with an 8" driver (currently on power buy) and surprise, surprise that knocks the socks off everything..
:confused:
:D
..and don't get me started on that utterly hideous Velodyne with the 'V' grille.. :gag: Has a face only an uncle could love :lol:
Not knocking UE's knowledge, but he does seem to get carried away sometimes, esp. over the WHF Gallo review..
I notice no-one over there is caning WHF over the Rotel pre/pro/power group test winner result beating the Tag & Arcam setups, to boot.. :suspect:
ROTEL RULE!! :clap:
btw - I've got the REL Q100 and it's bloody fantastic.. :thumbs:
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Originally posted by Bapapapa
They're a funny old lot over at the AVForums...
One minute they're saying there's no substitute for big enclosures - one of the reasons prolly the Quake & Q150 gets caned - then suddenly Velodyne bring out a 10" cube with an 8" driver (currently on power buy) and surprise, surprise that knocks the socks off everything..
Exactly my point - in one thread I did ask Eric if all the criticisms levelled at REL's due to their compact size could now be levelled at Velodyne - it went unanswered. I prefer to take my advice from a dealer that I know and trust, not one punting stuff out on a forum.
The now acclaimed (before UE had even heard it I believe) Velodyne VX-10 (which I agree, is utterly hideous) is available for under $160 in the US - that hardly smacks of high-quality componentry.
Needless to say, when the Q150E won the Sub of the Year award in the current issue of the excellent magazine Home Cinema Choice, the only answer, according to many on the AV Forums, was that the magazine was taking a back-hander from REL in the form of advertising. This leaves me deeply suspicious of the impartiality of some members over there - I wonder if they'd have said the same had a Velodyne won? I suspect not....
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Originally posted by Radiohead
Well, if he said it then it must be true.
:rolleyes: Watch out, that's UE's best mate you're messing with..
Ian J & Uncle E sitting in a tree.. :luv:
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btw - Radiohead, nice post count.. :|
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Originally posted by Bapapapa
btw - Radiohead, nice post count.. :|
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Originally posted by Urban Tiger
As an alternative to the Q150, I'll be selling my Q100e later this week. Considered by many to be better than the Q150, these come up regularly in the classifieds for £200-£250 and make an excellent bargain.
Have you thought 2nd hand?
Looks like you've thought about it. :)
I may be interested once I finally place an order for the speaker package and if the price is right. :D
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Originally posted by CLH
Splobber, first you don't exist so what's the point buying anything.
Hmmmm....I didn't really think about that tbh. :suspect: :D
Where are you getting your Denon 3903 cheaply from then? (I saw your post in the classifieds). I may be tempted to go all out and buy a new receiver now.... :dork:
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Originally posted by splobber
Looks like you've thought about it. :)
I may be interested once I finally place an order for the speaker package and if the price is right. :D
TBH, this wasn't really a punt to sell, although reading it, it certainly sounds like it ;). I sold my mates Q100e a couple of weeks ago on the AV Forums for £235, it sold very very quickly.
As for 2nd hand gear, almost all my stuff is 2nd hand! Heres a list of stuff I own split new and 2nd hand.
2nd Hand
Cyrus CD7Q
Pioneer 757 Ai
Arcam FMJ 3 channel power amp
Arcam FMJ 2 channel power amp
B&W CDM 7NT
B&W LCR60 s3
REL Q100e
New
Tag McLaren AV32R bp192
B&W 600 s3 rears
Without buying 2nd hand, I wouldn't have half the stuff I own :thumbs:
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And most of my stuff is second hand from Urban!
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Originally posted by splobber
Welcome back btw, Radiohead. :)
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