Question:
Because of some other posts going on recently, i wondered how we all feel that certain therapists and their work might be understood, judged, or evaluated...not great choice of words I know.
If we are talking reiki and similar types of enregy work then we cannot really quantify what is being done in a tangiable and provable way, despite the results are generally obvious.
I feel myself that it is clear that is is probably more important how we promote such things and the information we give as well as individual responsibility for those who come to us.
i believe all people offering a service should be especially resonsible for those we encounter, whatever we do, for example, when giving riding lessons i am responsible for the safety of others as well as providing a good time.
So, when i give a reading, or energy cleanse, remove a poltygeist, give reiki or whatever it is I do, i am also responsible for my client's well being, i must act ethically and safely and know my trade.
Thinking about it, i believe i am, but how would anyone know? The best they have is faourable word of mouth, qualification need not mean much...certainly doesn't in the world of horses.
So, how do people propose to sort this out so everyone agrees and the public are confident?
How would you guys know if i was any good?
repeat business and word of mouth recommendation. its no good advertising for any of the things you mention.
if i wanted a card reading, a medium, SH, reiki etc etc... in fact any therapy from massage to osteo, i'd ask around my friends so i would someone they have been happy with and had good results.
anyone can claim to do be a good therapist, and maybe they are, but some are not and i dont want to be the one to find out!
when recommending reflexology on forums (u-oh... going into CM again <g>), i tell people to not just rely on AoR websites, or any of the orgs, i tell them to ask around or look in YP etc... ring the therapist and ask questions, like qualifications, experience, have they treated such and such before... as a therapist, i would have no problem with this at all. it also gives you a feel for the therapist/ client.
and... dont go back to the same one if you werent happy with them.
As a would be user of such services, you are right, how would I personally pick one therapist over another.
We face the same dilemmas in sorting out a builder, plumber etc. In the case of builders etc. I would always go with recommendation, but I personally don't know of anyone who has had Reiki healing for instance.
Do you not belong to some sort of body that advocates a certain standard which you have to reach before being registered?
Before you mentioned this I would have assumed all Reiki healers are identical in their practice.
well that opens up a whole can of worms!!
there are discussions on the boards at the moment about this very subject, under the reiki forum... its the occupational standards discussion and on general, its the spiritual freedom discussion.
neither discussion gives the answer... reiki is not regulated... nor are many therapies for that matter. it is difficult for the public to choose, thats for sure.
yes there are *governing* bodies and associations, but many practitioners (me! for instance) choose not to belong... as a practitioner, imo, i get little from it and they cost quite a few bob.
far from it, very diverse indeed i feel, people are encouraged to take their reiki where they like and practice in a way that is right for them. There are many agreed practices and theories but I can see that many people vary again.
It is very hard to say who is right or wrong, who is doing something useful and who is less so, this is I feel the problem we have.
Hi there,
I think that anyone who can channel this energy can be a good healer, what is more important is what is definitely tangible. For example, a healer who would put their hand and lean on an inflamed nerve in the face, or a healer that would put their bare hand on an open wound, a healer that would treat children whose parents refuse to take to the doctor and who would not tell the authorities of the neglect, a healer who would treat someone who tells them they want to go and kill their wife afterwards, and not inform the police, a healer who would grope a client's genitals, or who would only tell a client that their back problem is due to a past life instead of refering them to eg a chiropractor or physiotherapist (thereby increasing the chances of the problem becoming chronic), a healer that would tell a cancer client not to go to the hospital for tests etc.
Really, we are at this level of trying to have a minimum standard so that the general public can have more trust in us. It's not about testing the energy! The energy is there for all and cannot be bought, sold, divided or anything like that!
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Getting off my soapbox now...
Hi Suzanne
Some of the modalities already have a code of ethics to cover this sort of thing but if I read your post right and forgive me if I am reading something into it that is not there, but it seems to me that if we apply what you are saying then:
We would have to vet and exclude anyone with a potentially dodgy background or below average indigence, everyone must be above reproach and have training in all of the other therapies/modalities including medicine/pathology and physiotherapy so they can be given permission to heal and be accredited as a "good healer" irrespective of their actual ability to heal!
So how do we evaluate a healers ability to actually heal? is it on the cleanliness of their clothes or the length of their hair or is a person with a degree in something or would a Dr be better equipped to heal than an illiterate, would an athlete make a better healer than someone severely physically handicapped or is it the person who actually produces results that will be classed as a healer?
I would not like to deny healing or the ability to learn healing to anyone as healing is IMO only a very small part of the energy journey and if the higher energy BEings are happy to give the connection and work with then who am I to disagree and do otherwise.
I will climb of my soapbox now.
Hi Paul,
Yes, I think you are reading more into my post than there is :)
Why would anyone (or more to the point how can anyone) deny anyone's ability to heal? IMHO the energy is there for all.
Hi Suzanne
That's all right then, I thought you was trying to advocate that reiki should be regulated to stop what you where referring to in your post :-)
If we are talking reiki and similar types of enregy work then we cannot really quantify what is being done in a tangiable and provable way, despite the results are generally obvious.
I feel myself that it is clear that is is probably more important how we promote such things and the information we give as well as individual responsibility for those who come to us.
i believe all people offering a service should be especially resonsible for those we encounter, whatever we do, for example, when giving riding lessons i am responsible for the safety of others as well as providing a good time.
So, when i give a reading, or energy cleanse, remove a poltygeist, give reiki or whatever it is I do, i am also responsible for my client's well being, i must act ethically and safely and know my trade.
Thinking about it, i believe i am, but how would anyone know? The best they have is faourable word of mouth, qualification need not mean much...certainly doesn't in the world of horses.
So, how do people propose to sort this out so everyone agrees and the public are confident?
How would you guys know if i was any good?
Answers:
repeat business and word of mouth recommendation. its no good advertising for any of the things you mention.
if i wanted a card reading, a medium, SH, reiki etc etc... in fact any therapy from massage to osteo, i'd ask around my friends so i would someone they have been happy with and had good results.
anyone can claim to do be a good therapist, and maybe they are, but some are not and i dont want to be the one to find out!
when recommending reflexology on forums (u-oh... going into CM again <g>), i tell people to not just rely on AoR websites, or any of the orgs, i tell them to ask around or look in YP etc... ring the therapist and ask questions, like qualifications, experience, have they treated such and such before... as a therapist, i would have no problem with this at all. it also gives you a feel for the therapist/ client.
and... dont go back to the same one if you werent happy with them.
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As a would be user of such services, you are right, how would I personally pick one therapist over another.
We face the same dilemmas in sorting out a builder, plumber etc. In the case of builders etc. I would always go with recommendation, but I personally don't know of anyone who has had Reiki healing for instance.
Do you not belong to some sort of body that advocates a certain standard which you have to reach before being registered?
Before you mentioned this I would have assumed all Reiki healers are identical in their practice.
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well that opens up a whole can of worms!!
there are discussions on the boards at the moment about this very subject, under the reiki forum... its the occupational standards discussion and on general, its the spiritual freedom discussion.
neither discussion gives the answer... reiki is not regulated... nor are many therapies for that matter. it is difficult for the public to choose, thats for sure.
yes there are *governing* bodies and associations, but many practitioners (me! for instance) choose not to belong... as a practitioner, imo, i get little from it and they cost quite a few bob.
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far from it, very diverse indeed i feel, people are encouraged to take their reiki where they like and practice in a way that is right for them. There are many agreed practices and theories but I can see that many people vary again.
It is very hard to say who is right or wrong, who is doing something useful and who is less so, this is I feel the problem we have.
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Hi there,
I think that anyone who can channel this energy can be a good healer, what is more important is what is definitely tangible. For example, a healer who would put their hand and lean on an inflamed nerve in the face, or a healer that would put their bare hand on an open wound, a healer that would treat children whose parents refuse to take to the doctor and who would not tell the authorities of the neglect, a healer who would treat someone who tells them they want to go and kill their wife afterwards, and not inform the police, a healer who would grope a client's genitals, or who would only tell a client that their back problem is due to a past life instead of refering them to eg a chiropractor or physiotherapist (thereby increasing the chances of the problem becoming chronic), a healer that would tell a cancer client not to go to the hospital for tests etc.
Really, we are at this level of trying to have a minimum standard so that the general public can have more trust in us. It's not about testing the energy! The energy is there for all and cannot be bought, sold, divided or anything like that!
[sm=soapbox.gif]
Getting off my soapbox now...
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Hi Suzanne
Some of the modalities already have a code of ethics to cover this sort of thing but if I read your post right and forgive me if I am reading something into it that is not there, but it seems to me that if we apply what you are saying then:
We would have to vet and exclude anyone with a potentially dodgy background or below average indigence, everyone must be above reproach and have training in all of the other therapies/modalities including medicine/pathology and physiotherapy so they can be given permission to heal and be accredited as a "good healer" irrespective of their actual ability to heal!
So how do we evaluate a healers ability to actually heal? is it on the cleanliness of their clothes or the length of their hair or is a person with a degree in something or would a Dr be better equipped to heal than an illiterate, would an athlete make a better healer than someone severely physically handicapped or is it the person who actually produces results that will be classed as a healer?
I would not like to deny healing or the ability to learn healing to anyone as healing is IMO only a very small part of the energy journey and if the higher energy BEings are happy to give the connection and work with then who am I to disagree and do otherwise.
I will climb of my soapbox now.
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Hi Paul,
Yes, I think you are reading more into my post than there is :)
Why would anyone (or more to the point how can anyone) deny anyone's ability to heal? IMHO the energy is there for all.
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Hi Suzanne
That's all right then, I thought you was trying to advocate that reiki should be regulated to stop what you where referring to in your post :-)
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