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All I can say is .... Wow!
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Amazing healings. It was very noisy with the skm bit (loud shouting chants) and went on too long for me to stay till the end and I do still firmly prefer Reiki (it sounds like a lovely quiet hum in my ears) but it was so good to understand how two totally different systems have unconditional love and such great healing in common.
Could you fill us ignorant folk in a bit more on this Suzanne?
Sharon
I simply have not been into reiki so apologies for 'butting in'. But it sounded interesting. I did a quick search and found online:
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When Kathleen arrived home she received a phone call from Marcy who had just been to a channeller in Arizona. While channelling she told Marcy that a woman named Kathleen had taken Reiki to higher levels. Kathleen believes it was her exercises in the Runes and Egyptian Cartouche which raised her energy, and also awakened former lifetimes she had spent in Egypt.
Marcy at this time was on her way to India to see the avatar and holy man Satya Sai Baba. Since his birth in November 23, 1926, Sai Baba has manifested supernormal powers and his mission in one phrase might be, to raise humanity's consciousness to God Consciousness. Sai Baba is able to communicate in languages he has never studied, and quote passages from texts he himself had never read - at least in this lifetime. His healings and manifestations can be imminent and dramatic. He is able to perform the same miracles that the Master Jesus did: manifest, heal, transform, bilocate and even multilocate. There are countless stories and many books written about him.
The next time she saw Marcy was at the Whole Life Expo in Los Angeles. While in India, Satya Sai Baba had told her in meditation that Mrs. Takata had left out a symbol and over half of the initiation procedure for each of the three Reiki degrees. Smiling, he told her not to worry and that he would go to the 'inner planes' for the purpose of retrieving the lost information and power, and that he would be giving them the information shortly.
More recently the Higher Being [who came from that, it is said]has revealed his true identity to Kathleen (he is not a bi-located form of Sai Baba, as was previously thought) and he and other spirit guides (fifth dimensional beings including the Ascended Masters, the Galactic Federation and the Angels of the Eternal Light) continue to work with her in additional frequencies of energy. In 1995 Sai Baba himself acknowledged the authenticity of this Higher Being
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With the Sai Baba link, that is interesting. Yesterday a friend emailed me this link which is highly disturbing but I'll frankly need time to plough through it all myself (if I ever do, as it is so unpleasant):
So it looks like he's a guy who panders (as well as sexually fondling) to all wishes? Anyone who trusts him, take them also with caution, it seems, if you look at the link.
Venetian
You are right, what is being said here is very disturbing, however, I generally disbelieve everything I read on the net and in other media sources. Too many people have too many different agendas to serve.
It's a very long and complicated story about Kathleen, Marcy and Sai Baba and the new form of Reiki they channeled too, and it differs depending on who's telling it. It's all very confusing!
Donna.xx.
I agree this is a bit other-worldly! There are too many wild explanations.
Kathleen explained again how she came upon Seichem Reiki and how it developed from Usui's teachings. I quote from her website:
"So, what is Tera-Mai Seichem? Since Kathleen Milner's first encounter with Buddha, it has been Buddha who has been in charge of the healing system of Tera-Mai. (Read both Reiki & Other Rays of Touch Healing and Tera, My Journey Home.) Tera-Mai Seichem was given to Kathleen by Spirit in another consciousness-raising experience described in her books. Tera-Mai Seichem initiations pass on all 4 elemental healing energies - earth, air, fire and water. It is these elemental energies that all healers, magicians, Shaman and saints have worked with through the centuries."
Buddha came to her as a vision.
Seichem Reiki is essentially Reiki with a Seichem influence but definitely Reiki. There are other energy modalities in the Tera-Mai healing system that are not Reiki. My personal preference is the Reiki part, however for others it is the Egyptian Cartouche or perhaps Shamanic stuff.
Patrick Ziegler founded Skhm and developed it. It is totally not Reiki and is an an energy healing system.
On Tuesday 25th April, Kathleen and Patrick met and explained how their healing systems came about and developed. They also conducted a joint group healing. There were many people there who had some old hurts that came up for healing that night and it was amazing to experience all the release in the room. There were about 60 attendees; the energy was amazing.
Hi Suzanne,
Looking at what my online source came across, and passed on to me,it seems to be more to do with Sai Baba than anyone else. He must surely be absolutely sunk now as anyone to ever take seriously. Personally, I don't know about how much others rely on him or believe in him, so my only point would be that I hope Kathleen is utterly unconnected! [:-]-- although the info does hint at a link, and it might be time for Kathleen to publicly disavow any connection.
Venetian
Hi Venetian,
Kathleen saw a vision of Sai Baba, as a guide.
What our mind presents to us in trying to understand the energy we are channelling is according to our experience and knowledge.
I have experience of a Palestinian devout Catholic having visions of the Virgin Mary telling her she will have a boy, and an Indian devout Hindu having visions of a Hindu god feeding milk to a snake (or something like that) meaning the woman is bearing a boy. Same intuition, same energy, different idol.
[sm=sandrine.gif] [sm=grouphug.gif]
Amazing healings. It was very noisy with the skm bit (loud shouting chants) and went on too long for me to stay till the end and I do still firmly prefer Reiki (it sounds like a lovely quiet hum in my ears) but it was so good to understand how two totally different systems have unconditional love and such great healing in common.
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Could you fill us ignorant folk in a bit more on this Suzanne?
Sharon
Answers:
I simply have not been into reiki so apologies for 'butting in'. But it sounded interesting. I did a quick search and found online:
--------------------
When Kathleen arrived home she received a phone call from Marcy who had just been to a channeller in Arizona. While channelling she told Marcy that a woman named Kathleen had taken Reiki to higher levels. Kathleen believes it was her exercises in the Runes and Egyptian Cartouche which raised her energy, and also awakened former lifetimes she had spent in Egypt.
Marcy at this time was on her way to India to see the avatar and holy man Satya Sai Baba. Since his birth in November 23, 1926, Sai Baba has manifested supernormal powers and his mission in one phrase might be, to raise humanity's consciousness to God Consciousness. Sai Baba is able to communicate in languages he has never studied, and quote passages from texts he himself had never read - at least in this lifetime. His healings and manifestations can be imminent and dramatic. He is able to perform the same miracles that the Master Jesus did: manifest, heal, transform, bilocate and even multilocate. There are countless stories and many books written about him.
The next time she saw Marcy was at the Whole Life Expo in Los Angeles. While in India, Satya Sai Baba had told her in meditation that Mrs. Takata had left out a symbol and over half of the initiation procedure for each of the three Reiki degrees. Smiling, he told her not to worry and that he would go to the 'inner planes' for the purpose of retrieving the lost information and power, and that he would be giving them the information shortly.
More recently the Higher Being [who came from that, it is said]has revealed his true identity to Kathleen (he is not a bi-located form of Sai Baba, as was previously thought) and he and other spirit guides (fifth dimensional beings including the Ascended Masters, the Galactic Federation and the Angels of the Eternal Light) continue to work with her in additional frequencies of energy. In 1995 Sai Baba himself acknowledged the authenticity of this Higher Being
---------------------
With the Sai Baba link, that is interesting. Yesterday a friend emailed me this link which is highly disturbing but I'll frankly need time to plough through it all myself (if I ever do, as it is so unpleasant):
So it looks like he's a guy who panders (as well as sexually fondling) to all wishes? Anyone who trusts him, take them also with caution, it seems, if you look at the link.
Venetian
Answers:
You are right, what is being said here is very disturbing, however, I generally disbelieve everything I read on the net and in other media sources. Too many people have too many different agendas to serve.
It's a very long and complicated story about Kathleen, Marcy and Sai Baba and the new form of Reiki they channeled too, and it differs depending on who's telling it. It's all very confusing!
Donna.xx.
Answers:
I agree this is a bit other-worldly! There are too many wild explanations.
Kathleen explained again how she came upon Seichem Reiki and how it developed from Usui's teachings. I quote from her website:
"So, what is Tera-Mai Seichem? Since Kathleen Milner's first encounter with Buddha, it has been Buddha who has been in charge of the healing system of Tera-Mai. (Read both Reiki & Other Rays of Touch Healing and Tera, My Journey Home.) Tera-Mai Seichem was given to Kathleen by Spirit in another consciousness-raising experience described in her books. Tera-Mai Seichem initiations pass on all 4 elemental healing energies - earth, air, fire and water. It is these elemental energies that all healers, magicians, Shaman and saints have worked with through the centuries."
Buddha came to her as a vision.
Seichem Reiki is essentially Reiki with a Seichem influence but definitely Reiki. There are other energy modalities in the Tera-Mai healing system that are not Reiki. My personal preference is the Reiki part, however for others it is the Egyptian Cartouche or perhaps Shamanic stuff.
Patrick Ziegler founded Skhm and developed it. It is totally not Reiki and is an an energy healing system.
On Tuesday 25th April, Kathleen and Patrick met and explained how their healing systems came about and developed. They also conducted a joint group healing. There were many people there who had some old hurts that came up for healing that night and it was amazing to experience all the release in the room. There were about 60 attendees; the energy was amazing.
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Hi Suzanne,
Looking at what my online source came across, and passed on to me,it seems to be more to do with Sai Baba than anyone else. He must surely be absolutely sunk now as anyone to ever take seriously. Personally, I don't know about how much others rely on him or believe in him, so my only point would be that I hope Kathleen is utterly unconnected! [:-]-- although the info does hint at a link, and it might be time for Kathleen to publicly disavow any connection.
Venetian
Answers:
Hi Venetian,
Kathleen saw a vision of Sai Baba, as a guide.
What our mind presents to us in trying to understand the energy we are channelling is according to our experience and knowledge.
I have experience of a Palestinian devout Catholic having visions of the Virgin Mary telling her she will have a boy, and an Indian devout Hindu having visions of a Hindu god feeding milk to a snake (or something like that) meaning the woman is bearing a boy. Same intuition, same energy, different idol.
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